What's Your NYCFC Breaking Point?

What does this mean? Honestly asking.

Taking the flag colors and imagery (which incorporate orange for the Dutch origins), various NYC motifs like subway tiles, pigeons, shout-outs to the five boroughs, the Yankee and Met-like monogram, and so on. I know most MLS clubs do this nowadays. But they didn't just graft a Manchester City or other random identity on, a la Red Bull, or some expansion teams in other sports like the Carolina Panthers, for example, just a "fierce" sounding name and random colors.
 
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Remember how quick the club was to cut ties with villa? Maybe this is why they didn’t extend his contract.
 
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Remember how quick the club was to cut ties with villa? Maybe this is why they didn’t extend his contract.

That indicates they knew about it. And if they knew about it, then it's pretty damning how little they acted. Part of the article also stated that the locker room was getting sick of him, and maybe that is why they cut bait. But it would be damning if this is why they cut him loose yet refused to do anything while it was happening.
 
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I would be honestly amazed if this had any impact on Villa staying in New York or not. Again - the problem with this whole episode is that it wasn't treated seriously enough. No-one cared about this poor intern or how Villa was treating her, which was precisely the problem.
 
Im personally at a point with all teams I root for, I try to separate the team from the ownership and their mismanagement, especially with their HR issues. Instead of walking away; I just hope to outlive the current ownerships. As a Giants fan you have the current owership (Mara, can’t blame Tisch) who signed a kicker who they knew had domestic abuses charges against him, and they resigned him and hoped it would just go away. The constant mismanagement has caused me to care less than I did yrs ago as I realize the team thinks I am idiot and they just believe the fans will accept their spin on facts. The Mets under Wilson’s were a walking clown show, but I still cared about the team even though Jeff alleged terminated VP of sales for being pregnant and unwed. hopefully Cohen is more buttoned up, but I’m not holding my breath. As well the Knicks and Brown Saunders sexual harassment suit But the Rangers have been relatively clean under the same ownership.
 
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I would be honestly amazed if this had any impact on Villa staying in New York or not. Again - the problem with this whole episode is that it wasn't treated seriously enough. No-one cared about this poor intern or how Villa was treating her, which was precisely the problem.
If Villa had started 30+ games and scored 20+ goals this would be a different story. He wasn't worth the DP contract.
 
Im personally at a point with all teams I root for, I try to separate the team from the ownership and their mismanagement, especially with their HR issues. Instead of walking away; I just hope to outlive the current ownerships. As a Giants fan you have the current owership (Mara, can’t blame Tisch) who signed a kicker who they knew had domestic abuses charges against him, and they resigned him and hoped it would just go away. The constant mismanagement has caused me to care less than I did yrs ago as I realize the team thinks I am idiot and they just believe the fans will accept their spin on facts. The Mets under Wilson’s were a walking clown show, but I still cared about the team even though Jeff alleged terminated VP of sales for being pregnant and unwed. hopefully Cohen is more buttoned up, but I’m not holding my breath. As well the Knicks and Brown Saunders sexual harassment suit But the Rangers have been relatively clean under the same ownership.
Im the same way. I genuinely don’t care about or follow my teams unless they’re playing. I never follow off-season stuff or what’s going on between games. Just don’t have the energy for it I guess. I’ve never been one to get bothered by the outcome of a game. Move on to the next week, season, etc.
My mind was already made up about our FO from season 1-2. Nothing has changed and how they handled this doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ll still tune in for games but very unlikely I’ll support our club as a whole by retweeting stuff and engaging online.
 
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I want to see NYC soccer thrive. Not to sound fair-weather, but that requires feedback to clubs when they do things right or wrong. I was ready to jump to QBFC if they built things right. I'm ready to buy season tickets to NYCFC again if they build a well-located stadium. These franchises don't have the roots to have unconditional support. For now, my money is on the sidelines. (Also, until MLS gives me a one-size-fits-all TV solution, my eyeballs are 50% on the sidelines as well. ESPN+ and a VPN still only gets me a subset of the games.)
 
I want to see NYC soccer thrive. Not to sound fair-weather, but that requires feedback to clubs when they do things right or wrong. I was ready to jump to QBFC if they built things right. I'm ready to buy season tickets to NYCFC again if they build a well-located stadium. These franchises don't have the roots to have unconditional support. For now, my money is on the sidelines. (Also, until MLS gives me a one-size-fits-all TV solution, my eyeballs are 50% on the sidelines as well. ESPN+ and a VPN still only gets me a subset of the games.)

Off topic, but for the record, having a cable subscription is the one-size-fits-all TV solution. That's what I have and I never have to worry about missing a game.
 
Off topic, but for the record, having a cable subscription is the one-size-fits-all TV solution. That's what I have and I never have to worry about missing a game.

I don't watch TV though, so that's like $500/yr to just watch MLS games.
 
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Didn't feel like starting a whole thread for this so putting this here. I sometimes wonder what overall fan happiness would be if everything were the same, but the team had a better playoff and USOC record, yet still never won any hardware. Keep all the other negatives, too: Lampard, no stadium, all the poor communications. Are we still talking about breaking points, CFG failures,and existential crises? What if
  • 2015 they don't blow the Cosmos game, and win at least once in the Cup against an MLS team before losing
  • 2016: beat the Cosmos then lose; playoffs beat Toronto, lose 5-4 aggregate to Montreal.
  • 2017: keep the 1-0 Red Bull Cup loss, but in the playoffs no red card, beat Columbus, lose to Toronto
  • 2018: beat Red Bulls (no 4-0 loss to supplement RBW), win a couple more and lose USOC final; playoffs beat Philly, beat Atlanta, beat Red Bulls, lose to Portland in Cup final
  • 2019: keep Cup the same, playoffs beat Toronto, lose to Atlanta
  • 2020: beat Orlando and New England, lose to Columbus, score a couple goals against Tigres
That's a team that sends you home from a bunch of playoff matchups feeling good, which we have rarely had, but still never wins the last game. Which is honestly the norm for most good teams. Obviously it would not satisfy the fanbase, and there's no reason it should. But it trades the narrative of "almost never wins a knockout contest," for "wins a bunch, including the playoffs, but always comes up short in the end." Basically the 1990s Knicks. People mostly have fond memories of those teams, tinged with regret, but positive. But I have trouble thinking this team would generate the same feelings. But that pure guesswork.
 
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Didn't feel like starting a whole thread for this so putting this here. I sometimes wonder what overall fan happiness would be if everything were the same, but the team had a better playoff and USOC record, yet still never won any hardware. Keep all the other negatives, too: Lampard, no stadium, all the poor communications. Are we still talking about breaking points, CFG failures,and existential crises? What if
  • 2015 they don't blow the Cosmos game, and win at least once in the Cup against an MLS team before losing
  • 2016: beat the Cosmos then lose; playoffs beat Toronto, lose 5-4 aggregate to Montreal.
  • 2017: keep the 1-0 Red Bull Cup loss, but in the playoffs no red card, beat Columbus, lose to Toronto
  • 2018: beat Red Bulls (no 4-0 loss to supplement RBW), win a couple more and lose USOC final; playoffs beat Philly, beat Atlanta, beat Red Bulls, lose to Portland in Cup final
  • 2019: keep Cup the same, playoffs beat Toronto, lose to Atlanta
  • 2020: beat Orlando and New England, lose to Columbus, score a couple goals against Tigres
That's a team that sends you home from a bunch of playoff matchups feeling good, which we have rarely had, but still never wins the last game. Which is honestly the norm for most good teams. Obviously it would not satisfy the fanbase, and there's no reason it should. But it trades the narrative of "almost never wins a knockout contest," for "wins a bunch, including the playoffs, but always comes up short in the end." Basically the 1990s Knicks. People mostly have fond memories of those teams, tinged with regret, but positive. But I have trouble thinking this team would generate the same feelings. But that pure guesswork.

idk. I’ve fallen off because I’ve felt jerked around all these years. Why I gave up my STs, come back to these boards from time to time. But really have lost the passion I had a few years back. I never blamed the Isles or Jets FOs for losing, just considered them incompetent. Still loved those teams and followed them passionately. And eventually isles got new ownership and a competent FO. Idk what to do about the Jets and the johnsons, but my fingers are crossed for the new GM and coach. NYCFC on the other hand, the coaches and GMs all run away and we’re constantly lied to or told half truths as a fan base. And we can’t even get 1 big DP signing to keep us excited. I honestly don’t know if they actually won a cup if any of this would change for me. Dome And reyna seemed ready to walk no matter the record. I’d probably look back at fond memories when i was excited about the team and they won something. But I’d still be in the same spot I am today, which is apathetic; hopeful at best that this gets turned around but not invested in any way. I’m curious to see how many matches I actually watch on TV this season.
 
idk. I’ve fallen off because I’ve felt jerked around all these years. Why I gave up my STs, come back to these boards from time to time. But really have lost the passion I had a few years back. I never blamed the Isles or Jets FOs for losing, just considered them incompetent. Still loved those teams and followed them passionately. And eventually isles got new ownership and a competent FO. Idk what to do about the Jets and the johnsons, but my fingers are crossed for the new GM and coach. NYCFC on the other hand, the coaches and GMs all run away and we’re constantly lied to or told half truths as a fan base. And we can’t even get 1 big DP signing to keep us excited. I honestly don’t know if they actually won a cup if any of this would change for me. Dome And reyna seemed ready to walk no matter the record. I’d probably look back at fond memories when i was excited about the team and they won something. But I’d still be in the same spot I am today, which is apathetic; hopeful at best that this gets turned around but not invested in any way. I’m curious to see how many matches I actually watch on TV this season.

pretty bad when the care bear stops caring :(
 
Didn't feel like starting a whole thread for this so putting this here. I sometimes wonder what overall fan happiness would be if everything were the same, but the team had a better playoff and USOC record, yet still never won any hardware. Keep all the other negatives, too: Lampard, no stadium, all the poor communications. Are we still talking about breaking points, CFG failures,and existential crises? What if
  • 2015 they don't blow the Cosmos game, and win at least once in the Cup against an MLS team before losing
  • 2016: beat the Cosmos then lose; playoffs beat Toronto, lose 5-4 aggregate to Montreal.
  • 2017: keep the 1-0 Red Bull Cup loss, but in the playoffs no red card, beat Columbus, lose to Toronto
  • 2018: beat Red Bulls (no 4-0 loss to supplement RBW), win a couple more and lose USOC final; playoffs beat Philly, beat Atlanta, beat Red Bulls, lose to Portland in Cup final
  • 2019: keep Cup the same, playoffs beat Toronto, lose to Atlanta
  • 2020: beat Orlando and New England, lose to Columbus, score a couple goals against Tigres
That's a team that sends you home from a bunch of playoff matchups feeling good, which we have rarely had, but still never wins the last game. Which is honestly the norm for most good teams. Obviously it would not satisfy the fanbase, and there's no reason it should. But it trades the narrative of "almost never wins a knockout contest," for "wins a bunch, including the playoffs, but always comes up short in the end." Basically the 1990s Knicks. People mostly have fond memories of those teams, tinged with regret, but positive. But I have trouble thinking this team would generate the same feelings. But that pure guesswork.

that 2019 team should have won the cup. The team to beat was LAFC who lost to Seattle. NYCFC beats toronto and they are back in YS (where they were almost unbeatable that season) all the way to the Cup final.

Toronto was the worst matchup they could have gotten - it came down to the final regular season game and they could have gotten DCU which they owned that season. Ugh.