Bundesliga 2016-2017

Also noteworthy about that Hoffenheim vs Leipzig game is that Hoffenheim is hated almost as much as Leipzig by the German fans because Hoffenheim was a tiny club that was bought by a billionaire and advanced rapidly from the 5th tier to the 1st. Hoffenheim itself is a tiny of village /suburb of only about 3,000 people. The team plays in 30,000 seat stadium in an urban area of only 36,000. The Germans don't like this because they feel a team should succeed only on the back of it's fans. To me this attitude seems to defeat the purpose of promotion and relegation but what do I know.
F*ck this.
1 - they're not breaking any rules or even skating close.
2 - they are rising through the strength of local fans since one of them is directy responsible for everything the club has done.
3 - nobody complains about all the money BM makes from selling jerseys overseas

I might have to buy a Hoffenheim jersey now.
 
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Fuck this.
1 - they're not breaking any rules or even skating close.
2 - they are rising through the strength of local fans since one of them is directy responsible for everything the club has done.
3 - nobody complains about all the money BM makes from selling jerseys overseas

I might have to buy a Hoffenheim jersey now.
Hoffenheim yes... Compliant and within the rules and with a former academy player pulling the strings. Can't be any more "organic" than that (hate that phrase).

RB Leipzig not so much - only 17 shareholders is a slap in the face to the rules. Evidently still within the rules, but a loophole that should be closed if the Bundesliga wants to remain a league of the people.
 
Hoffenheim yes... Compliant and within the rules and with a former academy player pulling the strings. Can't be any more "organic" than that (hate that phrase).

RB Leipzig not so much - only 17 shareholders is a slap in the face to the rules. Evidently still within the rules, but a loophole that should be closed if the Bundesliga wants to remain a league of the people.

I don't believe that they had to do that. It's my understanding of the 50+1 rule in Germany that it only applies to when clubs go through changes of ownership while in the top three (or maybe even two?) tiers of the league pyramid, and also it can't be applied retrospectively to teams like Leverkusen, who have always been a company team. If you come up from below that level then you're not subject to the same rule.

That said, I have zero respect for RB Liepzig. I would be one of those fans who refused to attend games against them, or attended as part of a protest action. I have no respect for Red Bull as a whole, and this dates back to long before my involvement with NYCFC. When RB bought RB Salzburg, the first thing they did was collect all of the fans in one place and tell them that from that day on, the club they used to support no longer existed and RB didn't consider their team to be a rebrand, they considered it to be a case of "wipe the slate clean and start again". They even introduced a new badge with the words "Established 2005" on it, although that's since been replaced by the generic RB crest. They apparently told the fans that they were acting like children for saying that they didn't like the way that their club had been taken over, and then told the fans to leave and form their own club (which they did) because they didn't want them. Any group which acts like that to an existing fan base doesn't deserve to be allowed near the sport, let alone to be running clubs.

http://www.standamf.com/2013/07/19/a-tale-of-two-salzburgs/
 
I don't believe that they had to do that. It's my understanding of the 50+1 rule in Germany that it only applies to when clubs go through changes of ownership while in the top three (or maybe even two?) tiers of the league pyramid, and also it can't be applied retrospectively to teams like Leverkusen, who have always been a company team. If you come up from below that level then you're not subject to the same rule.

That said, I have zero respect for RB Liepzig. I would be one of those fans who refused to attend games against them, or attended as part of a protest action. I have no respect for Red Bull as a whole, and this dates back to long before my involvement with NYCFC. When RB bought RB Salzburg, the first thing they did was collect all of the fans in one place and tell them that from that day on, the club they used to support no longer existed and RB didn't consider their team to be a rebrand, they considered it to be a case of "wipe the slate clean and start again". They even introduced a new badge with the words "Established 2005" on it, although that's since been replaced by the generic RB crest. They apparently told the fans that they were acting like children for saying that they didn't like the way that their club had been taken over, and then told the fans to leave and form their own club (which they did) because they didn't want them. Any group which acts like that to an existing fan base doesn't deserve to be allowed near the sport, let alone to be running clubs.

http://www.standamf.com/2013/07/19/a-tale-of-two-salzburgs/
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This is the SVAustria Salzburg kit. They just gained one more supporter. :):)Thanks for that link Falastur Falastur !! I think I am going to buy a jersey and wear it to the next derby at NYRB.....
 
The parent team of NJ is about to play Dortmund as Pulisic is on the bench.

The Dortmund supporters are boycotting the match as they feel embarrassed that an Austrian sports drink company is in the top flight of Bundesliga.
 
The parent team of NJ is about to play Dortmund as Pulisic is on the bench.

The Dortmund supporters are boycotting the match as they feel embarrassed that an Austrian sports drink company is in the top flight of Bundesliga.
I would just modify a bit and argue that none of the other RB clubs are the parent of the NJ club. They all have one parent with a low midi-chlorian count. That parent is a yellow drink.
 
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I would just modify a bit and argue that none of the other RB clubs are the parent of the NJ club. They all have one parent with a low midi-chlorian count. That parent is a yellow drink.
Oh I'm well aware. I'm moreso picking at that as NJ fans like to say MC is our "parent" club.
 
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Dortmund v. Berlin on now. Pulisic v. Brooks. Yum yum.
 
American Update
  • Bobby Wood has 2 goals (and one Red Card) in 9 league appearances and 2 goals in 2 cup appearances for Hamburg.
  • Christian Pulisic has 2 goals and 4 assists in 8 leauge appearances for Dortmund, he also had the game tying assist in Champions League play against Real Madrid.
  • Fabian Johnson has 1 goal and 1 assist in 9 league appearances and 1 goal in the German Cup for Monchengladbach.
  • Aron Johannsson has 1 goal and 1 assist (along with one Red Card) in 4 league appearances for Werder Bremen.
  • Julian Green has 2 German Cup appearances for Bayern Munich, scoring 1 goal.
 
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