MLS - May 17 - Red Bulls (CF)

After so many derbies of watching NYCFC control play but get outplayed in terms of intensity and physicality, it was the complete opposite today.

How many games have we seen in the past where NYCFC tries to play and RBNJ makes it a demolition derby? Today was the opposite - it was downright weird to see RBNJ control possession (but without purpose) and not uber press NYCFC - in fact both NYCFC goals came from turnovers at the back.

Bizarro world - Pascal has learned fast it seems. RBNJ lacked intensity and NYCFC brought it. Jansen is setting us up to win a lot of 1-0 games.
 
Quick question.
Did it actually feel like 30,000 were there tonight? From the broadcast it doesn't really look or feel like it was that much. I'm curious what it felt like in the stands.
 
Quick question.
Did it actually feel like 30,000 were there tonight? From the broadcast it doesn't really look or feel like it was that much. I'm curious what it felt like in the stands.
It was fairly quiet until the first goal. The second goal loosened people up, but there wasn't much shit talking. A few Fuck the Red Bulls cheers went up (a couple started by children, haha), but it didn't get rowdy where I was. Someone started the Mexican wave at the end, ignorant of our history with the Wave.

Nice to see us flip the switch on them. We have success when we force them to have the ball.
 
After so many derbies of watching NYCFC control play but get outplayed in terms of intensity and physicality, it was the complete opposite today.
This is what I've been looking for. Show me we mean business. Show me we're here to fight. Show me we're big boys and not a bunch of amateurs who get thrown around like rag dolls.

One of my favorite moments tonight was Alonso running side-by-side with Nealis and getting a shot off (nice save by Coronel). He had his arm out and had a piece of Nealis, and Nealis had a piece of him, but rather than go down and try and draw the cheap pen, Alonso fought his way through to the shot.

More of that, please. Show me we're here to fight.

And don't look now, but we're sitting sixth in the East. We can be good. Really good. All we need is one really good window.

Get on the stick, David.
 
Vieira used to piss me off with how rigid he was tactically against NJ. We would get killed over and over by their press. It's nice to have both Cushing and now Janssen modify the way we approach these derbies.

I thought we neutralized Forsberg and Chupo-Moting. The guys followed the plan and positioned themselves well.
 
Vieira used to piss me off with how rigid he was tactically against NJ. We would get killed over and over by their press. It's nice to have both Cushing and now Janssen modify the way we approach these derbies.

I thought we neutralized Forsberg and Chupo-Moting. The guys followed the plan and positioned themselves well.

That used to drive me crazy too. I do appreciate Cushing and now Jansen changing our usual tactics to adjust to NJ. At the same time though, I think NJ during Cushing and now Jansen's time are a completely different animal than what they were during Vieira's time. I'd be curious how cushing and jansen would handle a more traditional NJRB team.



Who gets your vote for the most fired-up guy? (I got mine.)

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Great photo!
 
really like what Pascal is doing with the four of the back thought. It was really interesting that on the first goal it was Hawk who forced the turnover all the way up the field. The idea of playing Risa as the left back, but then allowing Haak as the left centerback to go forward on offense while Risa tucks in as the left center back I just love the way that’s playing out
 
really like what Pascal is doing with the four of the back thought. It was really interesting that on the first goal it was Hawk who forced the turnover all the way up the field. The idea of playing Risa as the left back, but then allowing Haak as the left centerback to go forward on offense while Risa tucks in as the left center back I just love the way that’s playing out
Exactly. On offense, it turns into the old W-M.
 
I know you mean Pascal. And I agree he is awesomely fired up, but I’ll also give props to Freese and Martins in the back.
I do indeed. He's in full-on roar. And he was seriously fired up on the touchline at times.

We're through the adjustment and assessment phase and into something new. Cincinnati gave us a glimpse, but then we crapped out in Pittsburgh and really crapped out against Montréal. It was bad. My guess is those two performances convinced Pascal to drop the hammer and channel a little of the old Vince Lombardi philosophy: "You will be fired with enthusiasm, or you will be fired with enthusiasm."
 
Re Maxi’s goal:
A. Martinez sometimes plays an interesting passive aggressive forward press - where instead of getting in someone’s face or cutting off a single pass option, he just sits in an in-between space and dares you not to make a mistake.
B. One reason this works is he is generally faster than anyone else at reacting to a loose ball.
 
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