Motm And Postgame - Montreal

[kylelovescrayons]

Also bear in mind it is a handful of guys joining a somewhat meshed team - not a whole new group joining a logo and an idea ... hopefully the new veteran folks will just fit right in there

 

[SFphoto]

It's a little complicated. Not 100% sure this is current, but from 2012 the rules were:

Disciplinary Point System:
Fouls Committed – 1 point per foul
First Yellow Card – 3 points
Second Yellow Card (resulting in a Red Card) – 5 points
Straight Red Card – 6 points
Disciplinary Committee suspension – 6 points

• If a player receives a First Yellow Card and then a Second Yellow Card the total points accrued will be 5 points (rather than 8 points)
• If a player receives a First Yellow Card and then a Straight Red Card the total points accrued will be 9 points (6+3)
• If a player receives a First Yellow Card and then Disciplinary Committee sanctions the total points accrued will be 6 points (rather than 9 points)
• If a player receives a Straight Red Card and Disciplinary Committee sanctions then the total points accrued will be 6 points.

Note: The team totals above will be updated each Monday afternoon, but only through the previous week's games, not the most recent weekend. Each game must be reviewed and verified, and any Disciplinary Committee actions incorporated, before the new totals are posted.

Source: http://www.mlssoccer.com/stats/disciplinary-points/2012

Current "standings" (as of June 3): http://www.mlssoccer.com/stats/disciplinary-points/2015

Great bit of research. But wow, I do not like that at all. Fouls non-cautioned fouls are weighted more than away goal differential? Crazy.

 

[jguab2]

I truly hope that as I type this, the entire squad is out on the training pitch practicing corner kicks. We have been taking them horribly, and could improve our defending as well. This should be the primary focus in training for the next few days.

Yeap, defending set pieces should be a priority in practice.

 

[whill4]

So we are now 3 points off a playoff spot. Still don't believe we'll get it but stranger things have happened.

 

[Gene]

Of course we all know it's the Silly Season and we don't know how many players the team may bring in, but 2 DP's (Lampard and possibly Pirlo) along with 5 or 6 others is a rather large turnover imho.

I'm also sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't want 3 or 4 loans from MCFC either. I'm not saying that to be anti-MCFC, I'm saying it doesn't help NYCFC in the long run.

What good is it to give these potential loanees playing time when they're only going to head back to the UK in October? NYCFC is going to have to fill holes again come the start of the 2016 season. IOW, I want players here who are going to fit long range goals and not have to reconstruct the roster.

 

[mgarbowski]

Of course we all know it's the Silly Season and we don't know how many players the team may bring in, but 2 DP's (Lampard and possibly Pirlo) along with 5 or 6 others is a rather large turnover imho.

I'm also sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't want 3 or 4 loans from MCFC either. I'm not saying that to be anti-MCFC, I'm saying it doesn't help NYCFC in the long run.

What good is it to give these potential loanees playing time when they're only going to head back to the UK in October? NYCFC is going to have to fill holes again come the start of the 2016 season. IOW, I want players here who are going to fit long range goals and not have to reconstruct the roster.

Agreed. Half-year loans don't do it for me. Maybe one guy in a special spot. Maybe, for example, if we had a strong team with one clear weakness and he came in to fill it midsummer and stayed through a hopefully long playoff run. Sort of the way baseball teams trade for a player in July or August only expecting him to stay through the end of the year and - if all works - the World Series.

 

[TabascoDiva]

GANAMOS!!!
Que maraVilla !!!
Second win in a row.

 

[Gene]

Agreed. Half-year loans don't do it for me. Maybe one guy in a special spot. Maybe, for example, if we had a strong team with one clear weakness and he came in to fill it midsummer and stayed through a hopefully long playoff run. Sort of the way baseball teams trade for a player in July or August only expecting him to stay through the end of the year and - if all works - the World Series.

exactly

 

[FootyLovin]

Of course we all know it's the Silly Season and we don't know how many players the team may bring in, but 2 DP's (Lampard and possibly Pirlo) along with 5 or 6 others is a rather large turnover imho.

I'm also sure I'm in the minority here, but I don't want 3 or 4 loans from MCFC either. I'm not saying that to be anti-MCFC, I'm saying it doesn't help NYCFC in the long run.

What good is it to give these potential loanees playing time when they're only going to head back to the UK in October? NYCFC is going to have to fill holes again come the start of the 2016 season. IOW, I want players here who are going to fit long range goals and not have to reconstruct the roster.

mgarbowski Gene I agree in general that long term deals are better than half season loans but not in this specific context. We have 7-8 players staying the same (Villa Mullins Mix Hernandez Facey Saunders pick a midfielder and maybe a back). Add to that Pirlo Lampard and Iraola who are all longer term additions and AMAZING upgrades in talent. The only loanees who play into this scenario are Facey and Angelino. So at most we have 2 loanees featuring for us this year. Good for us. Good for our relationship with MCFC. If they both go back at season end so what? We have two good players who have to be replaced next offseason.

If we didn't have them we'd be starting lesser talent that these forums have been screaming need to be replaced for three months. Now we've won two games and suddenly we don't want a short term upgrade in talent.

Plus Facey and Angelino create competition for playing time. Everyone gets better.

If we were starting 6 loanees I'd agree. But these 2 work just fine for me.

 

[Vito]

https://twitter.com/x/status/610300743774547968

We have 3 plays in the top 10

 

[mgarbowski]

mgarbowski Gene I agree in general that long term deals are better than half season loans but not in this specific context. We have 7-8 players staying the same (Villa Mullins Mix Hernandez Facey Saunders pick a midfielder and maybe a back). Add to that Pirlo Lampard and Iraola who are all longer term additions and AMAZING upgrades in talent. The only loanees who play into this scenario are Facey and Angelino. So at most we have 2 loanees featuring for us this year. Good for us. Good for our relationship with MCFC. If they both go back at season end so what? We have two good players who have to be replaced next offseason.

If we didn't have them we'd be starting lesser talent that these forums have been screaming need to be replaced for three months. Now we've won two games and suddenly we don't want a short term upgrade in talent.

Plus Facey and Angelino create competition for playing time. Everyone gets better.

If we were starting 6 loanees I'd agree. But these 2 work just fine for me.

Facey's been great once he was put back in his position, and Angelino can be helpful too. But if I remember correctly this discussion started with talk of us getting 4-5 loanees from MC this summer.

 

[FootyLovin]

Facey's been great once he was put back in his position, and Angelino can be helpful too. But if I remember correctly this discussion started with talk of us getting 4-5 loanees from MC this summer.

If it's 4-5 I agree with you. Though with the team as it sounds like it is coming together there are fewer and fewer spots where we would want/need those loanees. And I'd assume MCFC only want to loan if they will get time on the field.

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Interesting stats from whoscored.com:

We had 54% possession, and were successful on only 44% of aerial battles (Nemec missing?)

Villa led team with a 10 rating, wow. Lowest starter was Mullins 6.12

Villa 7 shots 3 on target. Ballouchy led the team with 3 key passes

Villa led the team with 77 touches, at forward, wow.

Villa dribbled past 6 players, but lost 4 tackles and had poor control 4 times, leading the team

Defensively, our CBs had 13 interceptions, and 12 clearances. Both had nice game statistically.

Saunders was accurate on 7 out of his 25 long balls.

Villa had 8 crosses, we only had 2 accurate crosses as a team., RJ allen had the other (Mullins 0/1 on shots)

 

[BxLio91]

First game i am able to go to and they win 3-1!!. I must say thank you supporters section for making the game much more memorable and better. Looking forward to attending more.

If you smelled anything stank during the game, it was D_RoyJenkins letting it rip Beyblade V Force style.

 

[Kjbert]

Interesting stats from whoscored.com:

We had 54% possession, and were successful on only 44% of aerial battles (Nemec missing?)

Villa led team with a 10 rating, wow. Lowest starter was Mullins 6.12

Villa 7 shots 3 on target. Ballouchy led the team with 3 key passes

Villa led the team with 77 touches, at forward, wow.

Villa dribbled past 6 players, but lost 4 tackles and had poor control 4 times, leading the team

Defensively, our CBs had 13 interceptions, and 12 clearances. Both had nice game statistically.

Saunders was accurate on 7 out of his 25 long balls.

Villa had 8 crosses, we only had 2 accurate crosses as a team., RJ allen had the other (Mullins 0/1 on shots)

Thank you for the stats on Saunders. He is a good shot stopper. But there is so much more to that role. Struggling to direct on set pieces, doesn't communicate well with his defenders, has poor positioning on 1 v. 1 and can't distribute from the back.

But he's been fantastic as a shot stopper. I don't know how to weight that vs. everything else a GK needs to do these days.

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Thank you for the stats on Saunders. He is a good shot stopper. But there is so much more to that role. Struggling to direct on set pieces, doesn't communicate well with his defenders, has poor positioning on 1 v. 1 and can't distribute from the back.

But he's been fantastic as a shot stopper. I don't know how to weight that vs. everything else a GK needs to do these days.

I think if our defense starts to improve, and we are facing fewer breakaways and wide open shots, his distribution problem will become more of a factor. He has kept us from being destroyed multiple times this season though.

 

[Davo15]

I don't think I'd want to replace Saunders right now. He does have weaknesses but I'm confident enough with him back there for the rest of the season at least. If we have the ability to sign someone better over the off season that's when I'd look at that.

 

[Kjbert]

this might sound silly, but I think having Nemec to play the ball too has probably bailed him out a number of times.

 

[Mario]

Thank you for the stats on Saunders. He is a good shot stopper. But there is so much more to that role. Struggling to direct on set pieces, doesn't communicate well with his defenders, has poor positioning on 1 v. 1 and can't distribute from the back.

But he's been fantastic as a shot stopper. I don't know how to weight that vs. everything else a GK needs to do these days.

Our defense forces Saunders to be in so many uncomfortable situations

Interesting stats from whoscored.com:

We had 54% possession, and were successful on only 44% of aerial battles (Nemec missing?)

Villa led team with a 10 rating, wow. Lowest starter was Mullins 6.12

Villa 7 shots 3 on target. Ballouchy led the team with 3 key passes

Villa led the team with 77 touches, at forward, wow.

Villa dribbled past 6 players, but lost 4 tackles and had poor control 4 times, leading the team

Defensively, our CBs had 13 interceptions, and 12 clearances. Both had nice game statistically.

Saunders was accurate on 7 out of his 25 long balls.

Villa had 8 crosses, we only had 2 accurate crosses as a team., RJ allen had the other (Mullins 0/1 on shots)

Oh... But many said Mullins had a good game, yet he's the worst on the field with a mediocre rating... Lol
And check the season ratings. He's among the lowest

 

[Tom in Fairfield CT]

Our defense forces Saunders to be in so many uncomfortable situations



Oh... But many said Mullins had a good game, yet he's the worst on the field with a mediocre rating... Lol
And check the season ratings. He's among the lowest

These ratings are far from definitive, I just post them as a conversation starter.