He definitely wasn’t the primary problem, but he definitely wasn’t a fixer. The next one better be capable of working magic with flawed roster construction and mixed motive signings. At least it will keep things interesting during the off season.
Nick Cushing Named Interim HC (Jul '22) / HC (Nov '22) / Fired (Nov ‘24)
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I just don't see how you remove Cushing and not Lee.
I'm also very surprised.
On X,
SoupInNYC said he didn't think Nick was the problem that many claimed, but that Cushing also seemed not to offer many solutions, and I think that sums it up.
I mostly hated that Nick - by his own admission - sold out our defense this year (most goals allowed since 2016) to goose the offense. Which goes against the conventional take that he played too conservatively.
Either way, this is a band aid. The roster needs fixing.
ETA: just saw that
JayH had the same take as
SoupInNYC and posted while I was typing.
On X,
SoupInNYC said he didn't think Nick was the problem that many claimed, but that Cushing also seemed not to offer many solutions, and I think that sums it up.I mostly hated that Nick - by his own admission - sold out our defense this year (most goals allowed since 2016) to goose the offense. Which goes against the conventional take that he played too conservatively.
Either way, this is a band aid. The roster needs fixing.
I don't think they've had a solid transition plan ready since they fired Kreis and hired Vieira. It would be nice if this is different.
ETA: just saw that
JayH had the same take as
SoupInNYC and posted while I was typing.
I saw Soup's post and also agree.I'm also very surprised.
On X,
I mostly hated that Nick - by his own admission - sold out our defense this year (most goals allowed since 2016) to goose the offense. Which goes against the conventional take that he played too conservatively.
Either way, this is a band aid. The roster needs fixing.
I don't think they've had a solid transition plan ready since they fired Kreis and hired Vieira. It would be nice if this is different.
ETA: just saw that
They must have been planning this for some time, so hopefully they've been doing the work on a replacement too.
I’m not technically savy to pull out the one quote I want to from this but it’s the perfect description of Nick. He wasn’t the problem but he wasn’t the solution.I'm also very surprised.
On X,
I mostly hated that Nick - by his own admission - sold out our defense this year (most goals allowed since 2016) to goose the offense. Which goes against the conventional take that he played too conservatively.
Either way, this is a band aid. The roster needs fixing.
I don't think they've had a solid transition plan ready since they fired Kreis and hired Vieira. It would be nice if this is different.
ETA: just saw that
Overall I’m going to give him a B- grade leading our squad:
- he was a steady hand that held the course during a transition
- he did take a flawed squad into the playoffs and an upset (I’m a Mets fan and equate it to Bobby V taking an outfield of Payton, Perez and Agbayani to the WS)
- there was development seen from some of the younger American players
- he struggled to connect with some players and rather than develop them he drove them out
- he played to keep him job which may have set us back a season (can’t blame him however it still sucks)
I’m sure I’m forgetting a lot of points but I’m not as knowledgeable about the team as many on this forum. I’m just proud of myself for finally changing my Avatar
Yes. But though they did not control the decision or timing, when Vieira and Deila left they had plenty of advance notice and seemed unready. Dome was not announced right away and making Nick an interim was a weak move.
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I will say the best thing about Nick was the fact that we went 2.5 seasons without ever wondering if he was gonna jump ship, a difference from the previous few managers. (ignoring the Arsenal stuff VERY recently.)
Also, that made me realize - maybe this was expected / mutual, and so the Arsenal Women interest is strongly correlated?
Also, that made me realize - maybe this was expected / mutual, and so the Arsenal Women interest is strongly correlated?
As you were all saying this does seem like it’s been in the works for a while. Maybe the writing was on the wall for Cushing so his agents started the Arsenal Women’s rumors to drive up interest in him. Probably a conspiracy theory, but it’s not that far fetched…
Wish him luck. Good dude.
Wish him luck. Good dude.
I hear you. I just type.
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Good analysis, though. It's worth asking whether he was expected to play the new signings much sooner and didn't. If I had to guess the reason for his sacking, that would be it: not so much him failing to develop players as not recognizing where they were in their development, or at least where David and the F/O thought they were, and getting them out there.
I’m not sure how to say it any other way, but I always felt like this team did not play like a team. They played more like a bunch of individuals than a team. Felt more like a national team than a club team at times. And I think that can for the most part be put on Cushing. I’m going to guess Medhi and Rob stay put. But who knows if another manager will want to use their own people. I don’t think he’s ready for the big leagues but I hope medhi finds him a head coaching job in our organization as either the head of the 2s or in the academy so in a few years he could take the reigns after Pep leaves us (lol).
But MOST importantly, I’m excited to see a new
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But MOST importantly, I’m excited to see a new
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Nailed it. This is what I've been trying to put my finger on.
As I was reflecting further this morning, this is the point that I reflected on the most. Too many guys came in and didn't work out - or were good players pre-Cushing and then clashed with him and left or were forced out.
LOL wait someone noticed I've been doing manager joke profile pics?I’m not sure how to say it any other way, but I always felt like this team did not play like a team. They played more like a bunch of individuals than a team. Felt more like a national team than a club team at times. And I think that can for the most part be put on Cushing. I’m going to guess Medhi and Rob stay put. But who knows if another manager will want to use their own people. I don’t think he’s ready for the big leagues but I hope medhi finds him a head coaching job in our organization as either the head of the 2s or in the academy so in a few years he could take the reigns after Pep leaves us (lol).
But MOST importantly, I’m excited to see a new
I miss Ronny Dialup, that was my favorite.
If we get Curtin...
I always put that down to him being a company man and doing the dirty work for the F/O. I may have been wrong about that.
But of course, we never really get a look inside the box.
I should say, I was always struck by how quiet the team looked when they were all together watching a match at the training facility. Nothing like the level of rambunctiousness you'd expect from young men in a situation primed for clowning around. I always put it down to having so many different languages spoken on the squad, but I may have been wrong about that, too.
If CFG is giving Lee autonomy to build a competitive roster, there is no justification for him to stay. Lee sticking around tells me that he's not here to pick the high-dollar players; he's here to be the yes man who accepts the prospects CFG picks to send our way.
