It's not a job well done. UAE has been a strong ally of Israel for a long time on a number of issues including Iran. Nothing has practically changed outside of Trump trying to put his name on something.
Sportswashing and CFG
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Aside for some back room arms trades to partner against Iran there has been no formal relations between the countries. Israelies couldn’t even travel there or even fly commercial airlines over their air space. I don’t know where you get this “strong ally” BS, but it’s not true. Trump used the concept of annexation (probably a card never meant to be played, but one dems would NEVER even draw from the deck) and parlayed it into a peace deal. And it didn’t require Isreal giving up any land for peace like every other administration has always demanded. It’s pretty brilliant diplomacy and I’m sorry you can’t see it or at least admit it. I’ll still let you hate on Trump for a variety of other reasons, but come on; this was a good thing.
Normalizing relations is nice, but you can't ignore the fact that both Netanyahu and the UAE both benefit with a Trump victory in November. There isn't really a whole lot of proof that Trump or his administration did anything to facilitate this deal.
Regardless of who takes credit for what, I have major doubts that this deal has any real long term impact as long as the Palestine question goes unanswered.
you really can’t admit it. Did you not see Bahrain, Oman, and Yemen have all said they wish to normalize relations with Israel too now that the UEA took the first step? If a UAE/Israel brokered peace is a result of both parties wanted Trump to stay President, then he’s DIRECTLY responsible for the treaty based on your reasoning. He should get the Nobel Peace Prize.
As for the “Palestinian Question”, they’ve been nothing more than a political tool of the Arab nations. And with modernization of the Arab world and their inclusion into the global economy, the Palestinian agenda is getting left behind. And that’s a good thing, because if you took the time to see what Palestinian law stands for (and what type of nation their asking for), you’d see the subjugation of women and murder of their LBGTQ population, as well as the destruction of any Archeological remnants of religions that are not their own. Soon their only supporters will be those with similar ideologies such as Iran, ISIS & Hezbolah. Not the best company to keep.
I'm cautiously optimistic about Israeli-Arab relations for the first time in years, with this development. That said, Trump should be nowhere near the Nobel Peace Prize or any other of any kind. He is a petty, vindictive, selfish, misogynistic jackass and can't leave the national consciousness soon enough!
I said from the start with
derek_villa that I'm not arguing one way or another for Trump. I was just following his logic to it's (in some people's eyes) absurd conclusion. I'm just baffled that his hate for Trump won't let him see this development as a good thing, as you just said it was an optimistic development. That's really the my full point, period. This was good for the world and the countries involved in general. Anyone involved in this deal from the US administration should be given credit for a job well done. And everyone is also free to go about hating the current administration for 1001 other reasons, go ahead it's still a free country (aside for quarantines & those trying to stifle free speech). I just find it ludicrous to condemn anything this administration does just because you want them out of office, it's a very unhealthy way to view the world. (counterpoint; it's also unhealthy to praise anything this administration does as well.). Would we do the same with NYCFC and only praise their moves no matter what and hate on another team no matter what, without reason or logic?
I applaud your commitment to fairness and giving credit where credit is due. I don't know who did what in this administration or to what extent this would have happened in a Clinton or other administration.I said from the start with
That's all I got. Fuck this ignorant asshole president and his goons.
For those who don't know, Dell Loy Hansen is the apparently very racist owner of Real Salt Lake who "joked" about lynching Kellyn Acosta and apparently is pretty free with the n-word. He also characterized his feelings about the RSL players' strike on Wednesday as, quote, "the disrespect was profound to me personally.”
Interesting article on Mesut Ozil from a Pakistani publication. It acknowledges other reasons why he might be out of favor at Arsenal (contract, Covid wage cuts, Artete), but makes a plausible case that it also is partly due to him being frozen out by both team and league after he publicly expressed support for Muslim Uighurs in China. It contrasts the unwillingness of the Premier League to support a player on this issue with how they embraced BLM and even issues about police violence in Africa. It's all very cynical.
It will be interesting to see where he lands. MLS -- for now -- probably cares less about the Chinese market than any larger leagues.
That article was actually originally in the NY Times.
Thank you. I actually saw it first in an even more obscure site which credited it to the Pakistan one. They just pass it off as their own. Blatant theft.
UAE announces relaxing of Islamic laws for personal freedoms
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The United Arab Emirates announced on Saturday a major overhaul of the country’s Islamic personal laws, allowing unmarried couples to cohabitate, loosening alcohol restrictions and criminalizing so-called “honor killings.” The broadening of personal freedoms...
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UAE announces relaxing of Islamic laws for personal freedoms
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The United Arab Emirates announced on Saturday a major overhaul of the country’s Islamic personal laws, allowing unmarried couples to cohabitate, loosening alcohol restrictions and criminalizing so-called “honor killings.” The broadening of personal freedoms...
after their peace treaty with Israel, I’ve felt more comfortable with the clubs connection to the UAE.
So this is now going in the UAE. Wonderful development, sadly I doubt we could ever see such a sight in the USA without some type of protest. If a true peace can be formed and the Middle East steers itself in a more moderate and progressive direction, then much of that sportswashing won't be necessary. Can't wait to visit my Arab cousins in the near future and will gladly fly Etihad to get there. If you know my political leanings, this is a real 180 for me; but I've always believed in an open mind and open heart and hope this is the start of a bright new future for us and future generations.
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The Athletic has just published the first part of a two part series about CFG, with the indication that part 2 will heavily feature NYCFC.
theathletic.com
The City Football Group: a special report
We explain the vision, problems and why certain clubs are identified and what happens when CFG takes over
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Absolute must read! We'll at least keep discussion of Part 1 in this thread since the author calls out "sport-washing" in his tweet of the article:The Athletic has just published the first part of a two part series about CFG, with the indication that part 2 will heavily feature NYCFC.
The City Football Group: a special report
We explain the vision, problems and why certain clubs are identified and what happens when CFG takes over
Emirati Investor Acquires Stake in Israeli Soccer Team Known for Anti-Arab Fans
‘We want to set an example to both nations that Jews and Muslims can work together,’ investor says, in first significant private investment by an Emirati into Israel after it normalized relations with the U.A.E.
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Emirati Investor Acquires Stake in Israeli Soccer Team Known for Anti-Arab Fans
‘We want to set an example to both nations that Jews and Muslims can work together,’ investor says, in first significant private investment by an Emirati into Israel after it normalized relations with the U.A.E.
Can't wait to see Beitar as a regular in the Champions League. Also, anti-arab fans is a headline grabber. I'd say it's full of nationalistic, anti-terrorist fans. The terrorists, just happen to be their Arab neighbors. But as I said in a different thread, the times they are a changin. And this is another example of it. Let's hope for a long stretch of peace between Israel and its neighbors and any anti-anything sentiment becomes a long distant memory.