Stadium Discussion

[Seth]

Assuming you could get agreement to use the southernmost route of the existing tracks, you're talking about 800 feet of at-grade track re-routing. View attachment 7270

Page 232, exactly halfway back.
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-232#post-129673

 

[Statler]

RBA is not the only bogie. Moving the rails gets you, conservatively 640' x 500' square (and with asymmetrical design, more area than that). That's 320K sq ft.

Compare with Premier League stadiums with a similar capacity that we're looking to build:

Hawthorns, 26K capacity, 278 sq ft
Britannia (Stoke), 28K capacity, 285K sq ft
St. Mary's (Southampton), 33K capacity, 305K sq ft
Goodison, 40K capacity, 252K sq ft

 

[LionNYC]

RBA is not the only bogie. Moving the rails gets you, conservatively 640' x 500' square (and with asymmetrical design, more area than that). That's 320K sq ft.

Compare with Premier League stadiums with a similar capacity that we're looking to build:

Hawthorns, 26K capacity, 278 sq ft
Britannia (Stoke), 28K capacity, 285K sq ft
St. Mary's (Southampton), 33K capacity, 305K sq ft
Goodison, 40K capacity, 252K sq ft

Even the largest one there is ~7 acres and we are looking for 10-12 acres of land.

 

[Falastur]

Assuming you could get agreement to use the southernmost route of the existing tracks, you're talking about 800 feet of at-grade track re-routing. View attachment 7270

I feel like this is a workable solution:

 

[Statler]

Even the largest one there is ~7 acres and we are looking for 10-12 acres of land.

Forgive me if I've forgotten from a year or two ago, but my understanding was the 10-12 acres figure was what we thought would be necessary for a stadium with sufficient capacity.

Perhaps that estimate was too large? If we could fit a stadium with Goodison's capacity on FreshDirect, that's plenty of footprint. Arguably too big, honestly.

Parking is another item, but likely easier to deal with than space for the stadium itself.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

I feel like this is a workable solution:

I would cheer the shit out of that train too.

 

[Seth]

RBA is not the only bogie. Moving the rails gets you, conservatively 640' x 500' square (and with asymmetrical design, more area than that). That's 320K sq ft.

Compare with Premier League stadiums with a similar capacity that we're looking to build:

Hawthorns, 26K capacity, 278 sq ft
Britannia (Stoke), 28K capacity, 285K sq ft
St. Mary's (Southampton), 33K capacity, 305K sq ft
Goodison, 40K capacity, 252K sq ft

Even the largest one there is ~7 acres and we are looking for 10-12 acres of land.

RBA is 9 acres, approx, and that's just the stadium. Needs parking too.
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-363#post-175089

 

[Statler]

Can't swear Google Maps is the ultimate in precision, but the sq ft totals should be close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades. The architects can nail down the details...

 

[Kjbert]

I believe the 10-12 acres was for more than the stadium, but not including parking. The extra acreage was for a plaza, similar to what the yankees have outside Gate 6 and 4

 

[Statler]

RBA is 9 acres, approx, and that's just the stadium. Needs parking too.
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-363#post-175089

Agreed. As mentioned above, parking would have to be dealt with separately, probably through a separate nearby parcel--unless it was underneath the stadium (which gets back to that discussion 200 pages back that I'm not going to look for).

 

[Statler]

I believe the 10-12 acres was for more than the stadium, but not including parking. The extra acreage was for a plaza, similar to what the yankees have outside Gate 6 and 4

Nice to have, but would anyone give up a stadium because the plaza wasn't big enough? I wouldn't.

 

[Ulrich]

Nice to have, but would anyone give up a stadium because the plaza wasn't big enough? I wouldn't.

So you're planning to have 25k people spill out onto a 15' deep sidewalk?

 

[snugglefarts]

30k actually.

 

[Statler]

So you're planning to have 25k people spill out onto a 15' deep sidewalk?

I would imagine that as with 161st and River Ave , Borden would be closed to pedestrian traffic. And that is a an absolutely dead area, comparatively, for vehicular traffic.

 

[The Toe]

I'd be really interested to hear the # of cars that are parked at/near YS just for NYCFC games. Over 1,000?

 

[Statler]

I'd be really interested to hear the # of cars that are parked at/near YS just for NYCFC games. Over 1,000?

Me too. That sounds like a reasonable estimate, maybe even low.

 

[Seth]

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Can't swear Google Maps is the ultimate in precision, but the sq ft totals should be close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades. The architects can nail down the details...

 

[LionNYC]

I'd be really interested to hear the # of cars that are parked at/near YS just for NYCFC games. Over 1,000?

After the Intern finally categories this thread, his next job is to do that count.

 

[Statler]

 

[Seth]

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Can't swear Google Maps is the ultimate in precision, but the sq ft totals should be close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades. The architects can nail down the details...

Goodison is really small, 6 1/4 acres. RBA is 8 1/2.