The word has been that part of the investment was for Mumbai and part for our stadium.
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This Is Why Your Holiday Travel Is Awful
The long, sordid history of New York’s Penn Station shows how progressives have made it too hard for the government to do big things—and why, believe it or not, Robert Caro is to blame.
www.politico.com
Long article that uses the Penn Station project as an example of how it is nearly impossible to complete big public infrastructure projects in NYC (and much of the country). Though the focus is on public projects, much of the structural and procedural obstacles would apply to any big project in NYC, especially if public land or financing or anything is involved. It is definitely relevant to the NYCFC stadium, which requires political cooperation due to the publicly financed garages on site, and potential alterations to highway ramps and MTA train station.
If you lean left/progressive, don't be put off by the snippet. The author leans left himself, and is trying to figure out how to solve a problem so people will trust the government to do more stuff progressives would like. But he also doesn't really have a solution.
TLDR: Robert Moses was an asshole, but Caro's book about him inspired a counter-movement that has made it impossible to get anything done (but if you undo those reforms you risk another power broker like Moses).
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The answer, of course, is balance - of which we are currently in short supply.This Is Why Your Holiday Travel Is Awful
The long, sordid history of New York’s Penn Station shows how progressives have made it too hard for the government to do big things—and why, believe it or not, Robert Caro is to blame.
Long article that uses the Penn Station project as an example of how it is nearly impossible to complete big public infrastructure projects in NYC (and much of the country). Though the focus is on public projects, much of the structural and procedural obstacles would apply to any big project in NYC, especially if public land or financing or anything is involved. It is definitely relevant to the NYCFC stadium, which requires political cooperation due to the publicly financed garages on site, and potential alterations to highway ramps and MTA train station.
If you lean left/progressive, don't be put off by the snippet. The author leans left himself, and is trying to figure out how to solve a problem so people will trust the government to do more stuff progressives would like. But he also doesn't really have a solution.
TLDR: Robert Moses was an asshole, but Caro's book about him inspired a counter-movement that has made it impossible to get anything done (but if you undo those reforms you risk another power broker like Moses).
Other cities - especially ones in other countries - manage to get big things done easily and cheaply. If that outcome were even a small priority for NYC, we could make it happen, but it's not. There are tons of impediments to even the simplest of projects, for the reasons you mention.
Point of Order:This Is Why Your Holiday Travel Is Awful
The long, sordid history of New York’s Penn Station shows how progressives have made it too hard for the government to do big things—and why, believe it or not, Robert Caro is to blame.
Long article that uses the Penn Station project as an example of how it is nearly impossible to complete big public infrastructure projects in NYC (and much of the country). Though the focus is on public projects, much of the structural and procedural obstacles would apply to any big project in NYC, especially if public land or financing or anything is involved. It is definitely relevant to the NYCFC stadium, which requires political cooperation due to the publicly financed garages on site, and potential alterations to highway ramps and MTA train station.
If you lean left/progressive, don't be put off by the snippet. The author leans left himself, and is trying to figure out how to solve a problem so people will trust the government to do more stuff progressives would like. But he also doesn't really have a solution.
TLDR: Robert Moses was an asshole, but Caro's book about him inspired a counter-movement that has made it impossible to get anything done (but if you undo those reforms you risk another power broker like Moses).
Robert Moses was definitely a self-centered egotistical individual, definitely at times rubbing people the wrong way and being an asshole by ramming through initiatives, and he got some stuff very wrong with his master plan for the city (no access to the waterfront because of exterior highways is something the city is now successfully changing for the better). But he also did a ton of good for the city in making it a livable area with creature comforts that cut through the nastiness of an industrial concrete environment run amuck with trash and waste that comes with density. Our park systems and green spaces are his doing.
I read Robert Caro's book and it was fascinating! It's a daunting undertaking, but I at least recommend reading the chapter called "One Mile":
Fascinating article, and chapter, thank you!
Robert Moses was a racist, corrupt, elitist asshole. One of the most horrible people in recent history.
Robert Moses was a racist, corrupt, elitist asshole. One of the most horrible people in recent history.
Didn’t Moses singlehandedly put back race relations a century?
That’s a pretty debatable accusation that has been partially if not mostly debunked. He was definitely racist, but many of his creations are flawed for reasons not necessarily being the racist.
The theory of his low-Bridge to restrict minorities going to Jones Beach was probably misplaced - it was built when NYc was 95% white AND when parkways didn’t allow commercial vehicles to maintain the tranquility of the drive, and since he didn’t like mass transit but understood the legislation banning trucks/buses could be changed he built the bridges so that it’d be prohibitive to change the parkway if the policy changed, so IDK.... or the monkey sculptures found in Harlem parks were also found in Riverside Park, a park adjacent to a very affluent area, so IDK..... or the assumption that the Harlem pools weren’t heated, compared to others, was also when Harlem was an Italian neighborhood, so IDK.
He created NYCHA housing, which has help countless less fortunate, and while the buildings are falling apart and in some cases a war zone , that’s on recent mismanagement, not the initiative to build them.
Again, the dude was seriously flawed and an asshole and I’m not condoning everything he did/didn’t do, but he’s not the universal boogie man your post posited.
OK so let's leave it as: he was definitely a racist, seriously flawed, and for sure an asshole.
and he got shit done - honestly, the nightmare that is NYC traffic would likely be compounded
look how excited we all were to watch NYCFC play in Yankee Stadium for the first time.
Why would MCFC have a need to circumvent FFP - they are operating comfortably within its limits these days? Assigning the cost of a few coaches and admin staff to CFG is irrelevant in the scheme of things.
Edit to say they may show they break even but it’s because they fool around with their revenue from sponsorships and other commercial links. I think we learned this from the panama papers
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I made that, also I made the Domé video with skatman
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