Stadium Discussion

[LionNYC]

Gatsby Prices. Minimum 5 year commitment. The higher priced tickets are the 2 seats closer to the bench, the cheaper (lol) ones are the 2 away from the bench. Imagine paying 2k more just to be a seat closer to the bench even when there's a wall protecting the bench.



Pitchside Prices. Minimum 3 year commitment.


Tunnel Club Prices. Minimum 4 or 5 year commitment. The crazier ones are Row 1.


These are standard prices. $1k discount for Founding for Gatsby. $250 discount for Pitchside/Tunnel.

This is MLS. The WNBA is more popular in a recent poll. This is stupid.

The best Pitchside seat right now (Yankee Stadium / Citi Field) is $9,130 at founding member price.

 

[ZYanksRule]

Gatsby Prices. The higher priced tickets are the 2 seats closer to the bench, the cheaper (lol) ones are the 2 away from the bench. Imagine paying 2k more just to be a seat closer to the bench even when there's a wall protecting the bench.

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Pitchside Prices.
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Tunnel Club Prices. The crazier ones are Row 1.
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These are standard prices. $1k discount for Founding for Gatsby. $250 discount for Pitchside/Tunnel.

This is MLS. The WNBA is more popular in a recent poll. This is stupid.

The best Pitchside seat right now (Yankee Stadium / Citi Field) is $9,130 at founding member price.

Don't buy now. The stadium opens in two years. Wait for them to not sell at these prices and for them to cut the price. Don't be the sucker who thinks they have to lock in now.

These prices are aspirational. Trying to see if they can hook any fish. They'll have the lower the price to get these seats filled. The stadium is two years away.

 

[Bane]

Gatsby Prices. The higher priced tickets are the 2 seats closer to the bench, the cheaper (lol) ones are the 2 away from the bench. Imagine paying 2k more just to be a seat closer to the bench even when there's a wall protecting the bench.

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Pitchside Prices.
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Tunnel Club Prices. The crazier ones are Row 1.
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These are standard prices. $1k discount for Founding for Gatsby. $250 discount for Pitchside/Tunnel.

This is MLS. The WNBA is more popular in a recent poll. This is stupid.

The best Pitchside seat right now (Yankee Stadium / Citi Field) is $9,130 at founding member price.

Thanks for sharing. I really have no idea how they expect to move this product at those prices with the lack of success/excitement the team has right now.

Are you going to hold off on these seats for now?

 

[FootyLovin]

Am I the only one who thinks they will sell?

This is NYC and this is the world's game. World Cup will bring even more attention to the game. How many NYC companies entertain international clients?

Our perspective is a fan perspective. That's the only reason these sound outrageous. But a couple hundred thousand for a corporate entertainment budget? That's not that much.

 

[JayH]

Am I the only one who thinks they will sell?

This is NYC and this is the world's game. World Cup will bring even more attention to the game. How many NYC companies entertain international clients?

Our perspective is a fan perspective. That's the only reason these sound outrageous. But a couple hundred thousand for a corporate entertainment budget? That's not that much.

They have already sold out the pitchside suites which I was told were 300k each, so there is definitely going to be high end interest. I think they will probably do ok on the higher end of the premiums given where they are. I also think they will have some problems selling out the other tunnel club seats which are just lower center bowl seats - someone will have to want to pay almost 20 K a seat for the seventh row middle of the row just for the tunnel access. Meh. Maybe corporates who just want to entertain will not care, but that is terrible value.

 

[413Blue]

Am I the only one who thinks they will sell?

This is NYC and this is the world's game. World Cup will bring even more attention to the game. How many NYC companies entertain international clients?

Our perspective is a fan perspective. That's the only reason these sound outrageous. But a couple hundred thousand for a corporate entertainment budget? That's not that much.

This was my concern about the new stadium all along. This is NYC, they can get over the top prices. I was hoping to see signs of Atlanta United-esque fan-friendly initiatives, but I think we all know that won't be happening.

 

[gbservis]

Am I the only one who thinks they will sell?

This is NYC and this is the world's game. World Cup will bring even more attention to the game. How many NYC companies entertain international clients?

Our perspective is a fan perspective. That's the only reason these sound outrageous. But a couple hundred thousand for a corporate entertainment budget? That's not that much.

The novelty of a new stadium in NYC will drive initial high-end sales, but it will be interesting to see what they do to sustain them. Most of the world views MLS as a second or even third-rate league. If companies want to use these tickets to impress international clients, the club is going to need to build a squad of players those people actually want to see.

 

[JayH]

If companies want to use these tickets to impress international clients, the club is going to need to build a squad of players those people actually want to see.

This is why I still think that they may be smart enough to be saving one or two DP moves for the well recognized type player to open up the new stadium. It doesn’t help now while they are selling, but it does help later when they are marketing and showing off. Still my hunch. And it will probably be one cycle until they go back to the current young asset blue print.

 

[LionNYC]

Forgot to mention but have updated my original post. All seats are multi-year commitments with most being a minimum of a 5 year commitment. Prices increase anywhere from 4 to 7 percent annually.

 

[Brooklyn Blue]

Am I the only one who thinks they will sell?

This is NYC and this is the world's game. World Cup will bring even more attention to the game. How many NYC companies entertain international clients?

Our perspective is a fan perspective. That's the only reason these sound outrageous. But a couple hundred thousand for a corporate entertainment budget? That's not that much.

You are correct - they will sell. Prices aren't based on MLS or the current team. They are based on the World Cup next year.

After the prior World Cup, it was possible to create a new soccer league in this country that has been the most successful soccer league in this country's history. Prior iterations (see NASL) all failed. With this World Cup it is entirely reasonable - and wise - to bet on a comparable burst. Apple didn't make their play based on now, they based it on 2026.

Ticket prices for the current stadium, team, and league have been largely affordable the past ten years. There are underpriced tickets in certain sections of Yankee Stadium, and the secondary market allows for easy and low cost access to most games. Basing the new ticket prices on the current stadium and team situations is the wrong place to start. Accepting soccer is generally less of a draw to New York City as a whole than baseball, the better comparison would be how tickets were priced at Citi and Yankee Stadium when those venues were new (with any corresponding inflation adjustment).

Also, it would seem to be premature to compare ticket prices that have been made available now to anything in the current stadium structure. Pitchside at Yankee Stadium and Citi Field are fun, but it cannot possibly compare to what is planned for the new stadium with respect to location, access, and amenities. I highly doubt these prime seat ticket holders will need to walk across the outfield to reach their seats, or sit in a modified lounge area to eat and socialize pre-game. Some (though obviously not all) of the cost increase is a reflection of the seats and amenities being designed for their actual use.

 

[gbservis]

You are correct - they will sell. Prices aren't based on MLS or the current team. They are based on the World Cup next year.

After the prior World Cup, it was possible to create a new soccer league in this country that has been the most successful soccer league in this country's history. Prior iterations (see NASL) all failed. With this World Cup it is entirely reasonable - and wise - to bet on a comparable burst. Apple didn't make their play based on now, they based it on 2026.

Ticket prices for the current stadium, team, and league have been largely affordable the past ten years. There are underpriced tickets in certain sections of Yankee Stadium, and the secondary market allows for easy and low cost access to most games. Basing the new ticket prices on the current stadium and team situations is the wrong place to start. Accepting soccer is generally less of a draw to New York City as a whole than baseball, the better comparison would be how tickets were priced at Citi and Yankee Stadium when those venues were new (with any corresponding inflation adjustment).

Also, it would seem to be premature to compare ticket prices that have been made available now to anything in the current stadium structure. Pitchside at Yankee Stadium and Citi Field are fun, but it cannot possibly compare to what is planned for the new stadium with respect to location, access, and amenities. I highly doubt these prime seat ticket holders will need to walk across the outfield to reach their seats, or sit in a modified lounge area to eat and socialize pre-game. Some (though obviously not all) of the cost increase is a reflection of the seats and amenities being designed for their actual use.

I agree that many are hoping for a post–World Cup boost similar to what we saw in 1994, but I think the bump this time will be much smaller. The conditions that made 1994 such a turning point just aren’t present today. Back then:

• The USMNT was genuinely marketable, with several star players fans loved to rally behind.
• The team dramatically outperformed expectations during the tournament.
• Youth soccer was booming and beginning to rival traditional American sports like baseball in popularity.
• Interest in professional soccer was low, and access to international leagues was limited—creating massive untapped potential for growth.

In contrast, the current version of the USMNT feels less compelling to the broader public. If their current trajectory holds, they may even struggle to get out of the group stage. Meanwhile, streaming services have made it easy to watch any game from around the world, so fans who were going to be pulled in by soccer likely already have been—whether after 1994 or during the subsequent growth years.

There’s also a broader cultural and political backdrop that could dampen the excitement. For many Americans, the idea of dressing in red, white, and blue and leaning into patriotic fervor doesn’t carry the same appeal it once did. Internationally, relations between the U.S. and other countries are strained, which could affect fan enthusiasm, willingness to travel, and the overall atmosphere of the tournament.

Taking all of that into account, I have a hard time seeing how MLS or U.S. soccer in general sees a boost anywhere near what came out of 1994.

 

[ZYanksRule]

I agree that many are hoping for a post–World Cup boost similar to what we saw in 1994, but I think the bump this time will be much smaller. The conditions that made 1994 such a turning point just aren’t present today. Back then:

• The USMNT was genuinely marketable, with several star players fans loved to rally behind.
• The team dramatically outperformed expectations during the tournament.
• Youth soccer was booming and beginning to rival traditional American sports like baseball in popularity.
• Interest in professional soccer was low, and access to international leagues was limited—creating massive untapped potential for growth.

In contrast, the current version of the USMNT feels less compelling to the broader public. If their current trajectory holds, they may even struggle to get out of the group stage. Meanwhile, streaming services have made it easy to watch any game from around the world, so fans who were going to be pulled in by soccer likely already have been—whether after 1994 or during the subsequent growth years.

There’s also a broader cultural and political backdrop that could dampen the excitement. For many Americans, the idea of dressing in red, white, and blue and leaning into patriotic fervor doesn’t carry the same appeal it once did. Internationally, relations between the U.S. and other countries are strained, which could affect fan enthusiasm, willingness to travel, and the overall atmosphere of the tournament.

Taking all of that into account, I have a hard time seeing how MLS or U.S. soccer in general sees a boost anywhere near what came out of 1994.

If the US national team makes it to the quarterfinals, I think soccer will get a major bump in this country. But considering how they look lately, that seems like a far-fetched idea. An early elimination would waste the opportunity we have to gain popularity in this country.

 

[Victors87]

Maybe post World Cup the next bump is merging with USL for PRO / REG

 

[gbservis]

Maybe post World Cup the next bump is merging with USL for PRO / REG

Is there anything in the world less likely to happen but more discussed than the never-ending fan fiction of Pro/Rel for MLS?

 

[Bane]

Maybe the next bump are the friends we made along the way.

 

[Shwafta]

Maybe post World Cup the next bump is merging with USL for PRO / REG

If this was 1994 and MLS existed, maybe FIFA would have strongarmed MLS into the world cup by saying "you can host but oyu need to have pro/rel" lol

 

[ZYanksRule]

Is there anything in the world less likely to happen but more discussed than the never-ending fan fiction of Pro/Rel for MLS?

This is true, but a PRO/REG between MLS and USL would be terrific.

It'll never happen, but it makes too much sense. Unfortunately, the billionaires will never allow their investments to become so risky.

 

[moogoo]

This is true, but a PRO/REG between MLS and USL would be terrific.

It'll never happen, but it makes too much sense. Unfortunately, the billionaires will never allow their investments to become so risky.

why would it make sense? i don't understand. MLS is generally in all the big markets and USL covers the rest. why would it make sense to have pro/rel between the two? even if the billionaires said sure, let's do it if you can give me a good reason why, what would that good reason be other than "so we can be like europe!"

 

[CCMore]

why would it make sense? i don't understand. MLS is generally in all the big markets and USL covers the rest. why would it make sense to have pro/rel between the two? even if the billionaires said sure, let's do it if you can give me a good reason why, what would that good reason be other than "so we can be like europe!"

I agree, in Europe they literally tried to create a super league to get out of Pro-Rel and have big teams play only other big teams forever.

 

[ZYanksRule]

why would it make sense? i don't understand. MLS is generally in all the big markets and USL covers the rest. why would it make sense to have pro/rel between the two? even if the billionaires said sure, let's do it if you can give me a good reason why, what would that good reason be other than "so we can be like europe!"

I think it would increase interest in the entire US soccer pyramid. MLS doesn't really care about whether people watch USL, but the entire pyramid would see increased interest as you root for your local team to join the big boys.

It also prevents teams from "tanking" to get a good draft pick or from just playing the kids at the end of a bad season. It increases competitiveness within the league because the bottom-feeders are fighting to stay up instead of counting down the days until the offseason.

My biggest complaint about MLB/NHL/NBA/NFL is the race to be the worst record among the bad teams. Pro/reg would eliminate that.