How YOU Doin’? | NYCFC 2022 Season Discussion

[mgarbowski]

Note though that only one of those is at Yankee Stadium, with another one at Citi Field. The other “home” games are at RBA.

That might be relevant for the fan experience, but in terms of expected win potential, the team record at the 3 venues is effectively indistinguishable. People really want to believe otherwise but it just ain't so. All time PPG:

Yankee Stadium 2.02 PPG
CIti Field 2.00 PPG
RBA 2.00 PPG (excluding actual RB Home games)

This also is useful for shutting down claims that NYCFC has an unfair advantage at Yankee Stadium.

 

[KevinJRogers]

We do have to do well on the road. In fact, if we don't get at least, say, 4-7 points in the next 3 road games there is a chance we will learn that the odds of the Shield or first place are very dim if the Union and at least one of LAFC and Austin do well. Even 4 might not be enough if a couple of them get 7 or 9, which is not inconceivable. Unfortunately, even 7-9 points for NYCFC probably does not make us extreme favorites on the upside. It might just keep pace.

The last 5 games of our schedule is a killer. I take your point about the table placement of our opponents, but look at the H/A records of those last 5 opponents:

Our Home Games
Red Bulls are the third best Away team in the league.
Cincinnati has a result in 7 of 11 road games.
Orlando earned a result in 9 of 11 road games.
Any result for these 3 teams means points dropped at home for NYCFC.

Our Away Games
Charlotte and Atlanta are low on the table because they both suck on the road, with a combined 10 points in 20 road games. We play them at their homes, where Charlotte gets 2.1 PPG and Atlanta is a respectable 1.73. Best we can hope is Atlanta is out of contention on Decision Day and they mail it in.

Right now, NYC has 1.56 PPG Away, which is better than any previous NYCFC full season Away PPG. But it's not enough. This year LAFC has 1.90 PPG Away, Austin is 1.92, and the Union 1.73. We have to kill it to keep up.

Nailed this one, mgarbowski .

 

[Seth]

That might be relevant for the fan experience, but in terms of expected win potential, the team record at the 3 venues is effectively indistinguishable. People really want to believe otherwise but it just ain't so. All time PPG:

Yankee Stadium 2.02 PPG
CIti Field 2.00 PPG
RBA 2.00 PPG (excluding actual RB Home games)

This also is useful for shutting down claims that NYCFC has an unfair advantage at Yankee Stadium.

Ah, good, I’m glad you’ve looked into that. Another interesting factoid!

 

[moogoo]

That might be relevant for the fan experience, but in terms of expected win potential, the team record at the 3 venues is effectively indistinguishable. People really want to believe otherwise but it just ain't so. All time PPG:

Yankee Stadium 2.02 PPG
CIti Field 2.00 PPG
RBA 2.00 PPG (excluding actual RB Home games)

This also is useful for shutting down claims that NYCFC has an unfair advantage at Yankee Stadium.

I would love to witness this if you ever slap someone with these stats on twitter or reddit or something. lol.

 

[FootyLovin]

I would love to witness this if you ever slap someone with these stats on twitter or reddit or something. lol.

#datasmackdown

 

[AndreT_NY]

How am I doing? Bummed. Taty gone. Only 2 games left at YS and its freaking July. (Atlas and Pink Cows) I mean I loved the win on Saturday. It's a lot of realisation for one day.

 

[mgarbowski]

Posting this here in appreciation of Sean Johnson, Alex Callens, Maxime Chanot, Thiago Martins, the rest of the team defense, and Lady Fortuna.

Columbus had a shutout through 87 minutes last night, then conceded 2 goals and lost in short order. The clip is set to start just before Montreal's first.
Eloy Room had no real shot at either goal. The Crew might have done better defending the corner for the first goal, but it was mostly a case of Kai Kamara making a play. The second goal was freakish - as Joel Waterman - who?- Joel Waterman, a nondescript defender making about $134k controlled a 50-yard airborne field-switching pass into the box, then volleyed his own bounce into the goal past a helpless Room again.

That's how fast and easily you lose shutouts and games, often with almost nothing you can even do to stop it.

 

[SoupInNYC]

Posting this here in appreciation of Sean Johnson, Alex Callens, Maxime Chanot, Thiago Martins, the rest of the team defense, and Lady Fortuna.

Columbus had a shutout through 87 minutes last night, then conceded 2 goals and lost in short order. The clip is set to start just before Montreal's first.
Eloy Room had no real shot at either goal. The Crew might have done better defending the corner for the first goal, but it was mostly a case of Kai Kamara making a play. The second goal was freakish - as Joel Waterman - who?- Joel Waterman, a nondescript defender making about $134k controlled a 50-yard airborne field-switching pass into the box, then volleyed his own bounce into the goal past a helpless Room again.

That's how fast and easily you lose shutouts and games, often with almost nothing you can even do to stop it.

I’m going to piggy back off of this post to make a list of names:

Ronny Deila
Thiago Martins
Talles Magno
Gudi Thorarinnson
Taty Castellanos
Alfredo Morales

All of the above guys received instant vitriol from the fan base about their play. Poor play deserves criticism, yes. But IMO, it seemed like much of the fan base decided that each of these guys weren’t worth it and were lost causes.

Sometimes it just takes some time to get comfortable, especially when you’re a foreigner in a new country and league

 

[Gotham Gator]

Posting this here in appreciation of Sean Johnson, Alex Callens, Maxime Chanot, Thiago Martins, the rest of the team defense, and Lady Fortuna.

Columbus had a shutout through 87 minutes last night, then conceded 2 goals and lost in short order. The clip is set to start just before Montreal's first.
Eloy Room had no real shot at either goal. The Crew might have done better defending the corner for the first goal, but it was mostly a case of Kai Kamara making a play. The second goal was freakish - as Joel Waterman - who?- Joel Waterman, a nondescript defender making about $134k controlled a 50-yard airborne field-switching pass into the box, then volleyed his own bounce into the goal past a helpless Room again.

That's how fast and easily you lose shutouts and games, often with almost nothing you can even do to stop it.

I think the key quote in that video was from right after Kamara's goal - "it had been brewing." You give a team enough possession in your end of the field and enough chances and they're likely to get one in the net eventually - maybe even two.

By the way, after Joel Waterman scored the game winner, he went back to the team hotel and finished everyone's taxes.

 

[mgarbowski]

I’m going to piggy back off of this post to make a list of names:

Ronny Deila
Thiago Martins
Talles Magno
Gudi Thorarinnson
Taty Castellanos
Alfredo Morales

All of the above guys received instant vitriol from the fan base about their play. Poor play deserves criticism, yes. But IMO, it seemed like much of the fan base decided that each of these guys weren’t worth it and were lost causes.

 

[Shwafta]

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+ four clean sheets in a row again

 

[mgarbowski]

I think the key quote in that video was from right after Kamara's goal - "it had been brewing." You give a team enough possession in your end of the field and enough chances and they're likely to get one in the net eventually - maybe even two.

Usually. We've had several clean sheets this year that defied those odds. In just our last 4 games, all shutouts, we allowed 12, 15, 11 and 13 shots. I count 5 previous games where we allowed double digit shots and zero goals.
Montreal had 10 shots against the Crew.
This shutout run is something else.

 

[KevinJRogers]

In just our last 4 games, all shutouts, we allowed 12, 15, 11 and 13 shots.

What's cool is, they're not great shots. Against CF Montréal, just one was on target. It's four each for Inter Miami and the Red Bulls (we had 19 shots with nine on target against the latter). And down in Dallas, again just one.

 

[mgarbowski]

What's cool is, they're not great shots. Against CF Montréal, just one was on target. It's four each for Inter Miami and the Red Bulls (we had 19 shots with nine on target against the latter). And down in Dallas, again just one.

I do think some teams come into games against us with a plan to take shots against us when they can without waiting for the best moments because we don't allow many solid chances.

 

[KevinJRogers]

I do think some teams come into games against us with a plan to take shots against us when they can without waiting for the best moments because we don't allow many solid chances.

Exactly right.

 

[mgarbowski]

NYCFC PPG before SoupInNYC moved to Wisconsin - 1.92
Since he left - 1.38

 

[Schwallacus]

NYCFC PPG before SoupInNYC moved to Wisconsin - 1.92
Since he left - 1.38

Time for Soup to come back.

 

[mgarbowski]

Time for Soup to come back.

#datasmackdown

 

[SoupInNYC]

Time for Soup to come back.

Not gonna be permanent for sure, but I'll be back for Campeones Cup and HRD in a few weeks.

 

[GratefulDawg]

Not gonna be permanent for sure, but I'll be back for Campeones Cup and HRD in a few weeks.

We need Soup when we are ill!