Stadium Discussion

Where Do You Want The Stadium?

  • Manhattan

    Votes: 54 18.2%
  • Queens

    Votes: 84 28.4%
  • Brooklyn

    Votes: 15 5.1%
  • Staten Island

    Votes: 6 2.0%
  • Westchester

    Votes: 18 6.1%
  • The Bronx

    Votes: 106 35.8%
  • Long Island

    Votes: 5 1.7%
  • Dual-Boroughs

    Votes: 3 1.0%
  • Etihad Island

    Votes: 5 1.7%

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Fantazma

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It's either the field dimensions, practice availability for the other team, or ad signage space. From what I recall reading the regs, concacaf requires exclusive ad space and doesn't want any other ads to be shown during their broadcast that isn't their own. Making the field available for practice may also be an issue too.



You are forgetting the key words in Sims email .. "pending approval". So yea Sims is saying they'd be available, which after crook's question and answer sounds like it means the Yankees are willing to dewinterize it if approved.
if thats the case then its gonna be rough, both stadiums have big signage all over the stadium and they probably dont want more usage of the field for a practice.
 
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Don’t assume it’s the Yankees approval that’s pending. It’s just as easily Concacaf’s. Sims is engaging in word salad and the duality of meanings/interpretation.
I think you misread what I said. Never said it was based on the Yankees approval but concacaf approval. If approved by concacaf, the Yankees are willing to dewinterize early.
 
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if thats the case then its gonna be rough, both stadiums have big signage all over the stadium and they probably dont want more usage of the field for a practice.
Right. Removing signage is probably off the table. But I don't see why they can't hide them with blue tarp like they do already for some portions of ys. Availability is another issue since it's not our field, that's money to rent the stadium and having the grounds ready for training and then fixed up again for the game.
 

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Right. Removing signage is probably off the table. But I don't see why they can't hide them with blue tarp like they do already for some portions of ys. Availability is another issue since it's not our field, that's money to rent the stadium and having the grounds ready for training and then fixed up again for the game.
practice is the night before almost always. so im sure its a pain, will only get harder deeper in tournament with the switches.
 

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I just caught up on the 5-10 most recent pages over the stadium article/RBA announcement and I hope the discontent fades soon as we get on with the season, but FWIW: the content in the NYT article is, although more detailed, consistent with the conversations I had and remarks Brad Sims made at both the Third Rail x Ronny Deila event, and the Kit Launch event. He's known there was going to be news coming out for some weeks now, which is corroborated by Andrew Das comments that the article was being worked on over a period of weeks. This is not last minute: let's get a stadium article out to mitigate the RBA announcement.

For those who have been around the forums for awhile, you will know that I am not an eternal optimist with either the front office or the sporting side. I was one of the first 1000 founding member STH's and first 1000 third rail members, but Lampardgate among other things soured me very quickly, and there have been other moments. But for me personally (not telling anyone else how to feel), I have appreciated the attempts to be more forthcoming and have dialogue with fans. Hope there are more opportunities for that throughout the season, and substantive comments to media (Crooks and others) that clue us in a bit about some of the difficult issues.

Last year, I was pretty unenthused going into the season without a proper replacement for Villa, then the slow start for the first six games, etc. This year, I'm actually looking forward to getting CONCACAF and regular season underway
 

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Glenn Crooks just published a Q&A with Sims (looks like he gave a lot of media some time today), and his last answer really stood out to me.

PSUSA: In the Times report, Jorge Madruga, the CEO of one of your partners on the project, MADD Equities, referenced the Yankees releasing thousands of parking spots to enable the completion of the project. He said, “that’s what made this deal happen.” I think that quote caused a lot of the commotion.

BS: To be clear, there is no deal. I think what Jorge was referencing there was a signed term sheet, which is different from a signed contract. For us at NYCFC we were not a signatory to that term sheet. We’ll see where it goes from here, but we’re excited about the progress and from what we seen about the overall project. We think it’s something that is extremely positive for the South Bronx.

A signed term sheet seems like some new information.

 

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Glenn Crooks just published a Q&A with Sims (looks like he gave a lot of media some time today), and his last answer really stood out to me.



A signed term sheet seems like some new information.

So sounds like Yankees were the prime reason why we couldn't even begin to get it approved for CCL and then other venues, Sims makes it sounds like concacaf were being nitpicky. Would have been nice if he had given some examples of venues and a few examples of why they were not approved. Just so supporters can understand. I don't think it would have hurt to share that bit of info.

Also sounds like Yankees barely want to open up for our home opener either. Lol. Man we need a home bad. Really hope we can make significant progress on the new stadium deal by the summer. Some really good news of an actual signed deal (not sure if timeline with approvals and such would allow this) would be a nice boost into the end of the season and hopefully playoffs.
 

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So sounds like Yankees were the prime reason why we couldn't even begin to get it approved for CCL and then other venues, Sims makes it sounds like concacaf were being nitpicky. Would have been nice if he had given some examples of venues and a few examples of why they were not approved. Just so supporters can understand. I don't think it would have hurt to share that bit of info.

Also sounds like Yankees barely want to open up for our home opener either. Lol. Man we need a home bad. Really hope we can make significant progress on the new stadium deal by the summer. Some really good news of an actual signed deal (not sure if timeline with approvals and such would allow this) would be a nice boost into the end of the season and hopefully playoffs.
Can't blame the club for this one. I'm happy he opened up about it more. This also explains why our home opener is so much later than a lot of other teams. Based on what he said in the article, it really sounds like a frustrating time. They had venues prepared, Concacaf delayed, NYCFC did everything in their power and then concacaf delayed...
 

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NY Times asks NYCFC if they would like to comment on a story.

NYCFC says they'll provide a comment on Friday if NY Times agrees to hold off "printing".

NY Times agrees because it's better to have NYCFC quoted in the story.

RBA news comes out. NYCFC gives their quote. NY Times article is printed.

That's how this works.
Dude, you sit pitchside, we already know there's no way you're an actual journalist.
 

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Can't blame the club for this one. I'm happy he opened up about it more. This also explains why our home opener is so much later than a lot of other teams. Based on what he said in the article, it really sounds like a frustrating time. They had venues prepared, Concacaf delayed, NYCFC did everything in their power and then concacaf delayed...
As I said earlier - when in doubt, it's Concacaf's fault.
 

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FYI: most recent episode of Blue City Radio (#263) had NYT reporter David Waldstein on to talk about the stadium article
Not to spoil it, but he says the team is probably 90% there, and overcame a huge hurdle just recently which gave the heavy hitters the confidence to speak to the press.

Can you copy paste? I don’t think a lot of is have a paid sub to the athletic
I'd rather not, but it goes into the root causes of the issues surrounding the club -- the stadium is affecting a lot about how the team is operating.
 

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Article is more about the impact of a stadium than the stadium itself, but well worth a read.
It's also interesting to compare this article's assessment of how we fall short with another recent Athletic piece by Adam Snavely on FC Dallas's woes, opening with their recent attempt to sell partial-season "Mexican Superstars" ticket package based openly on when Chicharito, Pulido and Vela are visiting. (One weird thing: FC Dallas’ misguided attempt at marketing to Mexican fans, 2/11/2020)
 

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It's also interesting to compare this article's assessment of how we fall short with another recent Athletic piece by Adam Snavely on FC Dallas's woes, opening with their recent attempt to sell partial-season "Mexican Superstars" ticket package based openly on when Chicharito, Pulido and Vela are visiting. (One weird thing: FC Dallas’ misguided attempt at marketing to Mexican fans, 2/11/2020)
I think one if the best ideas that NYCFC can have is opening the stadium with a big name. It's hard AF to draw in new fans at a non-SSS as it is, and Sims likes to talk about how he sees people going to their first game and they say that they'll come back... but if you can open up that stadium with a Villa-level name, you're talking about something special that can reverberate through the City.
 

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I think one if the best ideas that NYCFC can have is opening the stadium with a big name. It's hard AF to draw in new fans at a non-SSS as it is, and Sims likes to talk about how he sees people going to their first game and they say that they'll come back... but if you can open up that stadium with a Villa-level name, you're talking about something special that can reverberate through the City.
Yes, my belief has been that they are waiting to shoot that shot again for the new stadium opening, which I think makes the most sense.
 

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I think one if the best ideas that NYCFC can have is opening the stadium with a big name. It's hard AF to draw in new fans at a non-SSS as it is, and Sims likes to talk about how he sees people going to their first game and they say that they'll come back... but if you can open up that stadium with a Villa-level name, you're talking about something special that can reverberate through the City.
Yes, my belief has been that they are waiting to shoot that shot again for the new stadium opening, which I think makes the most sense.
With this in mind, who do you guys see that will be available that is worth it when our stadium opens up?
 
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