Alexander Ring to NYCFC

That's a bit of a leap.
I exaggerate to make the point that I think it's buyers remorse and personality differences driving the bullshit. If Pirlo's name and history werent that of Pirlo, you could easily see the same treatment for him.


See above. Until I know specific examples of the sort of supposed dereliction you imply, chalking it up to what I say there. And that's fine. It's how the shit goes. But there are no innocents in this game.
 
I agree with this 100%. He will respect him and play to his strengths for this upcoming season because he has to and that's it.

He doesn't "have to" do anything. If Viera doesn't like Pirlo and he's playing him out of respect, then he's a legit shit manager. Plus every new manager inherits somebody else's players and they don't have the luxury of starting from scratch every time.
 
He doesn't "have to" do anything. If Viera doesn't like Pirlo and he's playing him out of respect, then he's a legit shit manager. Plus every new manager inherits somebody else's players and they don't have the luxury of starting from scratch every time.
He has to because he doesn't have a choice if he wants to win and keep the heat off. Lose with Mix on the bench, and you don't get mainstream flak. Lose with a healthy Pirlo watching in the stands, and all hell breaks loose. 99% of Managers are self-preservationists more than idealists, especially at the point PV is.

I don't think anyone is saying that's the only reason Pirlo plays. It's more that given his druthers, PV would probably prefer a player with some different attributes occupying that DP slot
 
He has to because he doesn't have a choice if he wants to win and keep the heat off. Lose with Mix on the bench, and you don't get mainstream flak. Lose with a healthy Pirlo watching in the stands, and all hell breaks loose. 99% of Managers are self-preservationists more than idealists, especially at the point PV is.

I don't think anyone is saying that's the only reason Pirlo plays. It's more that given his druthers, PV would probably prefer a player with some different attributes occupying that DP slot

Well I guess we'll see 'hopefully sooner than later' what PV wants in a DP.
 
Not even trying to shit on Mix here, but Pirlo and Mix are two very different players. For example, one is fucking Pirlo.

I get that he has some system fit issues. But to think that he might be a net negative given our system is absolutely ridiculous. Pirlo ran the midfield offensively and touched the ball more than anyone. He is almost the sole reason we have a top 5 possession percentage. He had 2.1 key passes per game - Harrison was second with 1.5, Villa 1.3, Mac 1.1, and the rest 1 or under.

He comes with some tradeoffs, but replacing Pirlo's composure in the middle is going to be extremely tough.
 
Not even trying to shit on Mix here, but Pirlo and Mix are two very different players. For example, one is fucking Pirlo.

I get that he has some system fit issues. But to think that he might be a net negative given our system is absolutely ridiculous. Pirlo ran the midfield offensively and touched the ball more than anyone. He is almost the sole reason we have a top 5 possession percentage. He had 2.1 key passes per game - Harrison was second with 1.5, Villa 1.3, Mac 1.1, and the rest 1 or under.

He comes with some tradeoffs, but replacing Pirlo's composure in the middle is going to be extremely tough.
Anyone who thinks Pirlo weighs us down needs to watch that video of every goal we scored last season. They'll realize just how important he is for us.
 
Apparently this is a done deal. Haven't heard much of the rumor besides what was said here. Don't know much about him. Germany develops solid talent and being with Leverkusen/Mochengladbach (omg just spelled that without looking) shouldn't be overlooked.

Developed with Bayer Leverkusen for 10 years.
1. Very close Dan, and certainly closer than this. Just forgot the n and umlaut- Mönchengladbach / Moenchengladbach are both correct.

2. Thank you for calling them Bayer Leverkusen, and not Bayern Leverkusen. +2 points to you, kind sir.
 
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/huuhkajat/art-2000005066749.html

The latest - it's happening according to this Finnish tabloid

Tidbits from this article:
  • Ring was 1.FC Kaiserslautern's highest earner.
  • We are paying about $320k transfer fee.
  • With surprising accuracy, they state to their Finnish audience that Lopez, the "bottom midfielder" is injured so Ring would be expected to start in his place. I'm not sure if "bottom" means "defensive" or "worst," but if they mean defensive, then they state that Ring can play DM without batting an eye. Good good.
 
I guess the $175K in GAM left from the Poku sale will be used to pay down the transfer fee or trade for an international spot.

Wonder if they'll announce the signing before they announce the acquisition such international spot.
 
The concensus in Finland is that the deal is done, waiting only to be confirmed either by NYCFC or Kaiserslautern.

What NYCFC is getting is an attack-minded, yet defensive central midfielder who can also play on the right, which is his position in the Finland team. When he burst through to the national team, he was a rash, aggressive youngster, who liked to go forward and tackle anything that moved, and naturally made his fair share of errors. That has faded in recent years, and Ring has become a calm and thoughtful midfielder who never shirks a hard tackle, but isn't in anyway rash anymore. He rarely loses the ball when in possession, has good skills, and can send a long pass with good accuracy. Not all of those balls land on his team-mates' feet, but that's how it goes. His time at Kaiserslautern has been a stop-start, with many niggling injuries, and constant changes of coaches.

As still relatively young (25) player, and with plenty of experience from tough international games, I think he will be a good addtion to the NYCFC side, but don't expect a flamboyant flair player, because he isn't a Fancy Dan. He's a solid worker with a good engine, who can go from box to box in full speed for 90 minutes.

When playing higher up the field, he can also chip in with a couple of goals, but in recent years he's been mostly deployed as a holding midfielder in front of the central defence.
 
The concensus in Finland is that the deal is done, waiting only to be confirmed either by NYCFC or Kaiserslautern.

What NYCFC is getting is an attack-minded, yet defensive central midfielder who can also play on the right, which is his position in the Finland team. When he burst through to the national team, he was a rash, aggressive youngster, who liked to go forward and tackle anything that moved, and naturally made his fair share of errors. That has faded in recent years, and Ring has become a calm and thoughtful midfielder who never shirks a hard tackle, but isn't in anyway rash anymore. He rarely loses the ball when in possession, has good skills, and can send a long pass with good accuracy. Not all of those balls land on his team-mates' feet, but that's how it goes. His time at Kaiserslautern has been a stop-start, with many niggling injuries, and constant changes of coaches.

As still relatively young (25) player, and with plenty of experience from tough international games, I think he will be a good addtion to the NYCFC side, but don't expect a flamboyant flair player, because he isn't a Fancy Dan. He's a solid worker with a good engine, who can go from box to box in full speed for 90 minutes.

When playing higher up the field, he can also chip in with a couple of goals, but in recent years he's been mostly deployed as a holding midfielder in front of the central defence.
Sounds awesome, thanks, just what we need on the defensive side.
 
When he burst through to the national team, he was a rash, aggressive youngster, who liked to go forward and tackle anything that moved, and naturally made his fair share of errors.

Hmmm...this sounds a lot like a certain central midfielder we already have. Glad Ring has evolved!

As others have said, thanks for the fantastic scouting report. Seems like he is a very good fit for what we need.
 
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