NASL has lost D2 sanction.

[Fantazma]

anyone with law experience can give me the tl;dr version of what this can mean? is final decision decided this week?

Judge says she will make decision on #NASL preliminary injunction for D2 status later in the week

— Michael Lewis (@Soccerwriter) October 31, 2017

 

[mgarbowski]

anyone with law experience can give me the tl;dr version of what this can mean? is final decision decided this week?

Judge says she will make decision on #NASL preliminary injunction for D2 status later in the week

— Michael Lewis (@Soccerwriter) October 31, 2017

A preliminary injunction is a request for immediate relief to prevent your opponent from doing something. The party seeking it usually wants to maintain the status quo. You can get it without a full trial. You make a motion. There might be a limited hearing with witnesses, or the judge can rule just based on papers and oral argument.

To get the PI, you have to show (1) that you are likely to win on the merits after a full trial, and (2) that if the relief is not granted, a monetary award is not sufficient to make you whole.

Apparently the judge here said we should expect a ruling on the PI this week. If you win a PI, you can still lose the case, which would vacate the PI. If you don't get the PI, you can still win the case.

 

[Fantazma]

A preliminary injunction is a request for immediate relief to prevent your opponent from doing something. The party seeking it usually wants to maintain the status quo. You can get it without a full trial. You make a motion. There might be a limited hearing with witnesses, or the judge can rule just based on papers and oral argument.

To get the PI, you have to show (1) that you are likely to win on the merits after a full trial, and (2) that if the relief is not granted, a monetary award is not sufficient to make you whole.

Apparently the judge here said we should expect a ruling on the PI this week. If you win a PI, you can still lose the case, which would vacate the PI. If you don't get the PI, you can still win the case.

so can NASL be dead by the end of the week?

 

[mgarbowski]

so can NASL be dead by the end of the week?

That's a business issue, not legal. It could be that by the end of the week there will be no obstacle to losing D2 status. How that plays out and how soon is anyone's guess.

 

[Keith Putnam]

so can NASL be dead by the end of the week?

NASL claims that without the injunction they will be bankrupt before the trial begins. Hard to know for sure if that's true or not.

 

[Fantazma]

At Sep 2017 app, NCFC, Deltas, & Eddies were said to be out. Cal United & 1908FC owner's were not stated as qualifying USSF finanical req's

— Steve Hamlin (@stevehamlin19) October 31, 2017

Kessler referenced Detroit City FC as a "new club in 2018" for #NASL when referring to arbitrary time zone arguments. #DCFC

— Steve Hamlin (@stevehamlin19) October 31, 2017

 

[Albany_NYCFC]

I can't paste the link but espnfc.com is reporting that the federal judge has denied NASL's injuction........ This could well be the end.......

 

[sbrylski]

Predictions
FOLD | SF Deltas, Puerto Rico
CPL | FC Edmonton
USL | North Carolina FC
NISA | New York Cosmos, Miami FC, Indy Eleven, Jacksonville Armada, San Diego 1904, California United

This would be a huge net for the NISA. I think they're going to have a relatively high turnover the first three years of its existence, but having so many teams to throw at the wall and see who sticks is a great counter to that.

 

[Ulrich]

Predictions
FOLD | SF Deltas, Puerto Rico
CPL | FC Edmonton
USL | North Carolina FC
NISA | New York Cosmos, Miami FC, Indy Eleven, Jacksonville Armada, San Diego 1904, California United

This would be a huge net for the NISA. I think they're going to have a relatively high turnover the first three years of its existence, but having so many teams to throw at the wall and see who sticks is a great counter to that.

Would the Kosmos even stick around if they’re now in the Third division? And Miami?

 

[sbrylski]

Would the Kosmos even stick around if they’re now in the Third division? And Miami?

I think it would be silly for that to be the reason for folding. I think any talk of D2 or bust was to strengthen their argument of irreparable harm without an injunction.

 

[ferrarinycfc]

Judge denies NASL's request for injunction to regain Division II status

http://www.espnfc.us/north-american...t-for-injunction-to-regain-division-ii-status

 

[Shawn Ryu]

SF Delta folded today apparently.

Seriously, this league is ran by buffoons.

 

[Keith Putnam]

ran

Indeed.

 

[LeeNYCFC]

SF Delta folded today apparently.

Seriously, this league is ran by buffoons.

This was reported then retracted. I believe they’re paying players through the end of the year and “their league” is trying to save the franchise

 

[Shawn Ryu]

NASL is a franchise league regardless of what their idiotic fans think:

 

[21Architect]

Hey can someone remind me why we DESPISE NASL so much that we root for it to fold?

-Guy who lives in a city where NASL is the only game in town

 

[snugglefarts]

I don't hate NASL. I just wish America's soccer pyramid made sense and NASL seems to be what's messing it up.

 

[Gotham Gator]

I think people are to some extent happy to see a league founded on arrogance get its comeuppance, although I agree with the general point that the NASL folding is not a good thing for soccer or its fans.

 

[LeeNYCFC]

Hey can someone remind me why we DESPISE NASL so much that we root for it to fold?

-Guy who lives in a city where NASL is the only game in town

They founded their league with the loud intention of being D-1 and taking down MLS, but they’ve never put out a product even remotely resembling it. Their clubs have opened and folded left and right. Clubs have failed to pay players and staff on their way down. And we’ve lost to the fucking Cosmos twice

 

[Fantazma]

Hey can someone remind me why we DESPISE NASL so much that we root for it to fold?

-Guy who lives in a city where NASL is the only game in town

its not so much despise but dislike this sense of entitlement i sense from them....just because they have "NASL" name doenst mean they are to be Div 1 .....they had it and messed it up.....and in this second version of it there are mistakes being made causing them to be in limbo every year ( and teams folding). anyone that was successful for the most part left ( Montreal, Minnesota, tampa, ottawa, San Antonio and NCFC leaving now).

does the mls-usl partnership help the USL yes it does, rumors was that NASL was offered same but they said no, problem is owners are not super rich enough, IMO, to be investing like MLS teams are in stadiums, infrastructure, facilities etc but wont want to be a second division/third division and that in between stance is what is hurting them. now it seems they are "ok" with being DIV 2 ....sort of with their lawsuit wanting to end all division status regulations and have no divisions in pro soccer and let "the market decide"