Nick Cushing Named Interim HC (Jul '22) / HC (Nov '22) / Fired (Nov ‘24)

What Are Your Thoughts on Cushing as NYCFC Head Coach?

  • Quite Really Pleased

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • Really Pleased

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Pleased

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • Neither Pleased or Displeased

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • Displeased

    Votes: 7 21.9%

  • Really Displeased

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • Quite Really Displeased

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • Total voters
    32
KevinJRogers said:
Excellent questions. Were I to get a sit-down interview with David Lee, these are the ones I would ask him, at least as it relates to Jovan.

For the record, my money is on the tactical adjustment option. Lee may have had the vision of very pacey, adept wingers doing the pressing and disrupting with Jovan as the linchpin at the center, while Nick may have been fully committed to the CFG Way. Which would explain Jovan falling down a bottomless well late in the year.

But we won't know unless somebody asks.
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Unfortunately, very few people outside of the team get that level of access and the ones that do like Crooks don't ask tough questions like that.

Going with the tactical adjustment option there is also the possibility that Cushing and Lee were aligned with that approach and then everything went out the window when Jovan showed up out of shape. We have a reasonable amount of evidence on that front. Jovan himself claimed he was only at 60% a few weeks into the season. We have the reports in here that someone on the forums that NYCFC brass was grumbling about his lack of conditioning and from his appearances his fitness only seemed to get worse as the season went on. Hard to blame Cushing for not wanting to adjust the whole team around a guy who couldn't even bother to be in shape to play.
 
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gbservis said:
Unfortunately, very few people outside of the team get that level of access and the ones that do like Crooks don't ask tough questions like that.

Going with the tactical adjustment option there is also the possibility that Cushing and Lee were aligned with that approach and then everything went out the window when Jovan showed up out of shape. We have a reasonable amount of evidence on that front. Jovan himself claimed he was only at 60% a few weeks into the season. We have the reports in here that someone on the forums that NYCFC brass was grumbling about his lack of conditioning and from his appearances his fitness only seemed to get worse as the season went on. Hard to blame Cushing for not wanting to adjust the whole team around a guy who couldn't even bother to be in shape to play.
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i suppose the good news is that jovan will get a full preseason now. the question will come down to whether he is motivated to get in shape or not.

a tactical change isn't the worst thing. but we need top, top wingers with fantastic feet in order to make it work. if we're getting stonewalled on the wings, jovan won't ever get the ball cause he's not running channels and he's not running in behind. currently, we don't have that in anyone except Jones (with the limited time we were able to see him).

It'll be interesting who they pick for the next coach. If they pick another CFG yes man, then i think it's pretty clear they want to continue with the young prospect path instead of the sign immediate impact players. If they sign someone outside of CFG with a good resume, i think that's a good sign they want to win. Not a clear sign, but a good sign that they want to do what it takes to win trophies.
 
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LIexpat said:
According to the Atlanta subreddit, David Moyes was spotted in a NYC restaurant this week …
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Imma be honest, don’t know a lick about him. I’d take him just to hear his accent in post game interviews
 
gbservis said:
Unfortunately, very few people outside of the team get that level of access and the ones that do like Crooks don't ask tough questions like that.

Going with the tactical adjustment option there is also the possibility that Cushing and Lee were aligned with that approach and then everything went out the window when Jovan showed up out of shape. We have a reasonable amount of evidence on that front. Jovan himself claimed he was only at 60% a few weeks into the season. We have the reports in here that someone on the forums that NYCFC brass was grumbling about his lack of conditioning and from his appearances his fitness only seemed to get worse as the season went on. Hard to blame Cushing for not wanting to adjust the whole team around a guy who couldn't even bother to be in shape to play.
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Another distinct possibility. Jovan posted a lot of clips of gym workouts, most of which were pretty intense, and he's clearly strong as an ox. Just look at how hard his jersey gets yanked when he's in a dangerous position in the box. He's clearly a handful. And a couple times when he was rushing the keeper while pressing, he terrified the poor bastard into just booting it into the stands.

But that's not match fitness. It's one of the reasons I said he needs a string of starts, something like what Mounsef got, to bust a sweat and get blooded and get going. But I guess Nick never felt there was the opportunity to do that (I thought Leagues Cup would have been it), or didn't see enough when Jovan did start to keep running him out there.

Not at all unreasonable. We were fighting for the playoffs.

Anyway, we'll see what the next gaffer brings. I just hope it's someone who's going to get it done and get us through 2027, at a minimum. We've never had a head coach through three full seasons, beginning to end. It's time. We need stability and someone who can make the most of the raw materials we've assembled.

If it turns out the raw materials are no good and no one can make it work, then David walks the plank next. Something tells me Marcelo Claure is starting to throw his considerable presence around, and he doesn't strike me as a particularly patient man.

EDIT: Corrected for Marcelo. I was just talking to my buddy about his dentures, and my Mom's dental tech was named Maurice. :rolleyes:
 
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KevinJRogers said:
If it turns out the raw materials are no good and no one can make it work, then David walks the plank next. Something tells me Marcelo Claure is starting to throw his considerable presence around, and he doesn't strike me as a particularly patient man.
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Yes, this is it for me. This next coach needs to be David Lee's final chance. I know we won in 2021, but for the most part we won with Claudio's team. This is David's team, it's underachieved, and if this next coach underachieves too, then David is the problem.
 
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Doesn’t seem like good fit just style wise. I’d be very surprised.
 
mgarbowski said:
Jim Curtin is known mostly over performing with solid rosters that lacked elite talents, and developing youth.

Sadly sounds like the perfect post-2021 NYCFC coach.
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Also, didn't we read when he was fired that Curtin's 4-4-2 diamond was because that's what the Union organization wanted? Curtin strikes me as a pragmatic coach -- will he change his system based on the roster he has?

I don't know the answer to these questions, but he dragged some very average Philly teams across the line over the years. I could definitely get behind the idea.
 
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ZYanksRule said:
Also, didn't we read when he was fired that Curtin's 4-4-2 diamond was because that's what the Union organization wanted? Curtin strikes me as a pragmatic coach -- will he change his system based on the roster he has?
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Gigantic question. I'm too tired to write too much more than that now, but I have been thinking about what a 4-4-2 would look like for us. I'm sure we could do it. I don't think we'd want to.

But hey, if he's tactically flexible and looking to work with what he has, different ballgame. I just have such a hard time seeing him patrolling our touch line. 😆
 
KevinJRogers said:
Gigantic question. I'm too tired to write too much more than that now, but I have been thinking about what a 4-4-2 would look like for us. I'm sure we could do it. I don't think we'd want to.

But hey, if he's tactically flexible and looking to work with what he has, different ballgame. I just have such a hard time seeing him patrolling our touch line. 😆
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I don't think we would be hiring Jim Curtin to run a 4-4-2 diamond. I think we would be hiring him to work with our young players, develop them, and play the CFG way. The question is whether Curtin can play our way.
 
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