Real Madrid And Zidane

It was stupid enough to sack Carlo and hire Benitez anyway, but this is ridiculous. They have no chance to win the league anyway, and Benitez is actually quite good at knockout competitions.
 
So, after Vieira goes, is it going to be Frank or Pirlo who takes over the team?
 
Got to say I've never been a big fan of hiring managers on the strength of their reputation as players alone. How many of today's top managers won the CL as a player?
 
He won it as a player?

Apparently yes. I never knew that before. Still, my point is not that it never happens but that it rarely does. How many more can be named? On the other hand, let's examine the pinnacle of the playing careers of various other top managers of the current era. In no particular order:

Jose Mourinho - played in the Portuguese second division. Won nothing
Guus Hiddink - Dutch third division champion once
Louis van Gaal - runner-up medal in the Belgian first division
Roberto Mancini - won Serie A twice, but playing for Sampdoria and Lazio. Not exactly behemoths of the game
Alex Ferguson - won the Scottish second division twice
Arsene Wenger - won Ligue 1 once, with Strasbourg
Jurgen Klopp - played for Mainz 05 for 11 years. Won nothing
Rafa Benitez - won the Spanish fourth division
Manuel Pellegrini - won the Chilean first division
Diego Simeone - won La Liga and Serie A once each, for Atletico Madrid and Lazio
Joachim Low - won the DFB-Pokal

There are a few top managers around who have won major trophies, I will admit. Pep Guardiola won the CL and a few La Liga titles, although I think he himself would admit (I believe I've seen it quoted, but I can't recall for certain) that he was not exactly a lynchpin of the team. Vicente del Bosque won a few La Liga titles though no European trophies. Antonio Conte won the CL. But these do not constitute a majority, or even a large minority really, when compared to the reams of successful managers who may have reached the top division but never really achieved much, and probably never played for anything more than a second- or third-rate team.

I'd much rather see players of Zidane's ilk get blooded at a lower level before being given a top team.
 
Real Madrid and CFG(NYCFC) have hired managers that both coached the development squads, won world cups, played for the largest clubs under legendary managers, where undoubtedly you have to learn a thing or two about managing from that perspective and won European league titles.

Maybe Kries was the right guy. Total opposite resume.
 
As a fan of both RM and us may both of Aimee Jacquet's disciples pan out for both teams.
 
If Smiley Zidane doesn't work out, Perez has to be next to show up on the unemployment line.

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Got to say I've never been a big fan of hiring managers on the strength of their reputation as players alone. How many of today's top managers won the CL as a player?


I agree. I am and was a great fan of Zinedine until he lost the 2002 WC to Italy. I wonder if he has gained enough wisdom and maturity and worldliness to be a Coach or he is still the hot-headed fool that took such foolish reaction to what the Italian guy told him he wanted to sleep with his sister? How Cro-magnon reaction!! I hope that he does not get such primitive reaction on the pitch and leave his his 11 men alone on the pitch with no one on the helm. Lol
 
I agree. I am and was a great fan of Zinedine until he lost the 2002 WC to Italy. I wonder if he has gained enough wisdom and maturity and worldliness to be a Coach or he is still the hot-headed fool that took such foolish reaction to what the Italian guy told him he wanted to sleep with his sister? How Cro-magnon reaction!! I hope that he does not get such primitive reaction on the pitch and leave his his 11 men alone on the pitch with no one on the helm. Lol
In 2002 he was hurt most of the cup. He lost to Italy in 2006. Although Zidane was at fault, many like to fault the coach for not playing Trezeguet significantly. He was only the leading scorer in Serie A at the time and new the Italian defense intimately.
 
In 2002 he was hurt most of the cup. He lost to Italy in 2006. Although Zidane was at fault, many like to fault the coach for not playing Trezeguet significantly. He was only the leading scorer in Serie A at the time and new the Italian defense intimately.
Ironic as Trezeguet was the one that missed the penalty that cost them the cup, if I remember right.
 
Apparently yes. I never knew that before. Still, my point is not that it never happens but that it rarely does. How many more can be named? On the other hand, let's examine the pinnacle of the playing careers of various other top managers of the current era. In no particular order:

Jose Mourinho - played in the Portuguese second division. Won nothing
Guus Hiddink - Dutch third division champion once
Louis van Gaal - runner-up medal in the Belgian first division
Roberto Mancini - won Serie A twice, but playing for Sampdoria and Lazio. Not exactly behemoths of the game
Alex Ferguson - won the Scottish second division twice
Arsene Wenger - won Ligue 1 once, with Strasbourg
Jurgen Klopp - played for Mainz 05 for 11 years. Won nothing
Rafa Benitez - won the Spanish fourth division
Manuel Pellegrini - won the Chilean first division
Diego Simeone - won La Liga and Serie A once each, for Atletico Madrid and Lazio
Joachim Low - won the DFB-Pokal

There are a few top managers around who have won major trophies, I will admit. Pep Guardiola won the CL and a few La Liga titles, although I think he himself would admit (I believe I've seen it quoted, but I can't recall for certain) that he was not exactly a lynchpin of the team. Vicente del Bosque won a few La Liga titles though no European trophies. Antonio Conte won the CL. But these do not constitute a majority, or even a large minority really, when compared to the reams of successful managers who may have reached the top division but never really achieved much, and probably never played for anything more than a second- or third-rate team.

I'd much rather see players of Zidane's ilk get blooded at a lower level before being given a top team.

not from this era but .... arrigo sachi....never even played pro.
 
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