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It would be offside that would become difficult, as the refs depend on the sound of the kick to judge the moment of the pass for those purposes. Man, if only we'd have Villa at the point this thing actually gets built.
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It would be offside that would become difficult, as the refs depend on the sound of the kick to judge the moment of the pass for those purposes. Man, if only we'd have Villa at the point this thing actually gets built.
There really isn't a great view there to be had. Best view will probably be of Citi Field. I don't see how you could see anything in Midtown from there. Throgsneck and Whitestone maybe. Possibly LaGuardia.
But we could take up two blocks there for a Stadium - the land between 126th and 127th st and 34th-36th Avenue - and build a beautiful stadium and entrance. Across the street from Citi Field parking lot.
What non-New Yorkers need to realize is that the redevelopment zone is essentially a shanty town. It looks like something you would see in Johannesburg. If we took up let's say two blocks/parcels (would be more than enough room for a RedBull sized stadium) there's another 20 parcels of land to develop. We use existing parking infrastructure, CFG builds 5 parcels of residential and the Wilpons get to overdevelop 15 square blocks of commerical for a hotel, mall, etc.
I don't see, from a development perspective, where you could find a more perfect spot to build right now in New York. This is the only place in New York City that is zoned for this type of development. They could break ground tomorrow if they wanted to. The land is already purchased and zoned.
But we could take up two blocks there for a Stadium - the land between 126th and 127th st and 34th-36th Avenue - and build a beautiful stadium and entrance. Across the street from Citi Field parking lot.
What non-New Yorkers need to realize is that the redevelopment zone is essentially a shanty town. It looks like something you would see in Johannesburg. If we took up let's say two blocks/parcels (would be more than enough room for a RedBull sized stadium) there's another 20 parcels of land to develop. We use existing parking infrastructure, CFG builds 5 parcels of residential and the Wilpons get to overdevelop 15 square blocks of commerical for a hotel, mall, etc.
I don't see, from a development perspective, where you could find a more perfect spot to build right now in New York. This is the only place in New York City that is zoned for this type of development. They could break ground tomorrow if they wanted to. The land is already purchased and zoned.
The city missed the deadline to file an appeal on that land yesterday, its not all as wrapped up as you think.
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/articl...-stunning-about-face-on-willets-point-project
yes i noticed the brooklyn borough president very open to that idea, i think he was there when cosmos announced about having a game there and when nycfc first started he was one of the first guys saying hey build stadium in brooklyn. he really wants someone to pick brooklyn and its looking like cosmos could be it.
That's the issue everyone is discussing. The appeal was to develop a mall on that land and that was denied. The land is zoned for a stadium so with the mall out of the picture now it's a viable option for NYCFC to build a stadium.
Yeah I turned it on when you posted that the NY Times reported Wilpon refinanced $700 million so they were talking about how broke he was.
Some advantage. Look how its worked out for the Mets. Only you could see 1 championship in 45 years as acceptable.
Hey, two. Two. TWO!!!! Not one, two! Don't cheat me out of my second championship, buster. What're you, some kind of Yankee fan?!?!?!?
But imagine how much worse they'd have been without the airplane noise.
Just some thoughts on this
It's also relatively easy to ride the A or C and then cross on a footbridge. When I'm not arriving relatively early I do this as a time saver over the D from Midtown. I've seen a fair number of other people doing this as well.
So another city option. Fair point about the LIRR as an option but you're talking at least twice the price of the MTA in each direction or dramatically more cost for people who already have a monthly on the MTA. I know it would be the opposite for LI fans getting to YS, but I'd speculate we're talking about a fraction of the number coming from within NYC. And of those some would have an MTA pass as well.
Correcting one point, the Knicks and Rangers are definitely moving. The City wants MSG off of Penn Station and it should happen within the next decade. The proposed relocation I've heard are the blocks currently occupied by the USPS facility 28th-30th/8th and 9th. Now there's the perfect site for NYCFC to hijack
2 in 45 years?
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no no, Penn is moving MSG is staying. Penn is moving to the USPS. The tracks go underneath anyway
The link for what I'm referring to
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2014/10/8555149/civic-planners-suggest-new-home-msg
It's worth reading the language in the NY Times article about the club more closely.
So the idea would be that we would pony up some money in order to build a stadium in the parking area next to Citi Field, and the Wilpons would use that money to subsidize the public housing aspect of the Willets Point project. The Wilpons seem to have preferred building a mall on the site in order to generate the funds, but that's what the judge would not allow due to state laws about parkland.
I agree that the Wilpons will want to control a lot of aspects of the stadium, but our club's owners are pretty sophisticated people, so I don't see them getting handcuffed by the kind of terms that apply in Miami.
If there is one thing that could upset the deal, it's whether the Yankees would object to a team they partly own being located there, but I think that's low probability.
So the idea would be that we would pony up some money in order to build a stadium in the parking area next to Citi Field, and the Wilpons would use that money to subsidize the public housing aspect of the Willets Point project. The Wilpons seem to have preferred building a mall on the site in order to generate the funds, but that's what the judge would not allow due to state laws about parkland.
I agree that the Wilpons will want to control a lot of aspects of the stadium, but our club's owners are pretty sophisticated people, so I don't see them getting handcuffed by the kind of terms that apply in Miami.
If there is one thing that could upset the deal, it's whether the Yankees would object to a team they partly own being located there, but I think that's low probability.
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As for MSG/Penn Station, there have been any number of proposals to fix a terrible cohabitation, but there is no consensus on any approach. The Dumbasses - sorry, the Dolans - have just spent millions renovating MSG.
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