I mean, these type of things have to help us with getting a stadium, no?
Stadium Discussion
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I don't have the time but if there's an intrepid young whippersnapper that wants to, here's info on FOILing in NY State:
https://www.dos.ny.gov/coog/freedomfaq.html#request
Here's the website for contacting the Empire State Development Agency:
https://esd.ny.gov/about-us/contact-us
https://www.dos.ny.gov/coog/freedomfaq.html#request
Here's the website for contacting the Empire State Development Agency:
https://esd.ny.gov/about-us/contact-us
There's the argument FOR Belmont, folks. We could get to page 5,000 of this thread and still be in a holding pattern. Stadium uncertainty still hanging over the club.
Anyone saying "I'd rather stay in Yankee stadium-- if we get booted from our home pitch for baseball playoffs, fine," probably doesn't believe, deep down, that NYCFC will REALLY be stuck in Yankee Stadium forever.
But they just might.
[and for the record, I think the club would be better off with any of the other rumored sites before Belmont, so this isn't rooted in loving Belmont]
Go ahead and put me down as playing at YS and getting booted from there 5 times a year to Citi Field rather than a permanent home at Belmont.
F. That.
Love you man, but where are the facts? It's all pure speculation. Point to me where in writing or their words anyone from the club said we are definitely getting our own stadium in NYC?
https://therealdeal.com/2017/10/18/massive-lic-development-site-hits-the-market/
Comes out to ~7.5 acres which is smaller than the 10-15 we are looking at. Maybe if they can buy the adjacent parking lot, we can get the proper size.
Comes out to ~7.5 acres which is smaller than the 10-15 we are looking at. Maybe if they can buy the adjacent parking lot, we can get the proper size.
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Seth ’s RBA overlay but the stadium may likely fit on the site with a funky corner (that could give it some panache). Not sure about parking and access to the site - looks tough since the Fresh direct Site wasn’t convenient and it’s farther east.
I'm sure if you buy all the surrounding parking lots, build really steep stands and have a standing only end to bump up capacity you could fit a stadium there. Would be tight though.
Nooooooooooo, thats my super secret parking block when i bring my pup to the dog run there. The shaddy, rundown look and overwhelming smell of fish usually means there's a few spots available there most hours of the day. If they put a 400ft residential building there its game-over there will officially be nowhere to park ever again.
I've driven to that little parking section in by the water, its not public parking, but I just went in to look. Gorgeous views and so peacefully quiet (for being next to a super-major city that is). Its a shame that it would ever be developed. I wish I was super rich, I'd buy put a hammock there and just chill. Until the taxes on build-able square footage bankrupts me and I'm forced to sell.
Its amazing to think some family owns that plot probably at next to nothing cost basis and it just sky-rocketed in value on them and now they have to do something with it. I often think about buying something with little cost in a growing city that might some day be like that plot, but then if/when it comes to fruition i'll be some cranky 70 year old with no desire to develop it and will just sell like this family is doing.
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Interesting stuff. I think they would have to buy up the warehouses across the street and close 54th, which might be doable.
the article says market rate is $300 buildable sqft for what could be 1.6mm sqft vertically. That's looking like 400-500 mil just to acquire the land that already is inadequately size. Still need to source what 25-50% more land from people who have you over a barrel knowing their lot is crucial to your development. Looking at like 600m+ just for purchasing the land you'd need, and then you push it over a billion with construction. All that with needing to get the city to give a variance on the road that services the factories that will still be in operation and NIMBY breathing down your neck in what is a very expensive residential neighborhood (albeit what used to be former M1-3 zone). I doubt this would ever be a serious contender unless we really wanna be the first 1 billion+ privately funded SSS in the US. No way we get any public support. Could do much more in willets for the same price if we really did want to spend a billion+.
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http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/stadium-discussion.21/page-217#post-122907
No not a chance. No idea who that is. All I'm saying is the truth. NYC politicians will not let a giant soccer stadium take up residential or commercial space for like 15 home games a year. Pipe dream.Is this the same frank_nycfc from twitter? Oh boy.
17 at least, plus a potential NYCFC II and/or a women's team, plus clinics, concerts, other events, etc - thinking it would just be used 17 times a year is just being overly pessimistic
They could possibly make more money on the concerts/events than they would the soccer. See Barclays Center choosing concerts/events over the Islanders guaranteeing 41+ days a year as a case study.
Yeah, but when you have, say, an area that needs heavy environmental remediation and is also relatively isolated and not well-integrated into the surrounding neighborhoods, not many other uses may be viable.
True, but that may raise a sticking point - to keep MSG (or Barclays, for that matter) from throwing its weight against them, would they cut a separate deal with them to only host certain events? They had a big role in killing the West Side Stadium, after all.
