Right, minimal effect if at all.I don’t think it will have much effect really but I’ll have to defer toSoupInNYC
Stadium Discussion
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This is my big takeaway here:
writing that while he supported “the development of underutilized land for productive uses that address the city’s need for additional affordable housing,” the zoning requested by the developer would have “no precedent in Brooklyn.”
The Wall Street Journal reports that the quest to build a soccer-specific stadium for Major League Soccer team NYCFC has finally been terminated more than six years after the club’s first official game.
Efforts have ceased after city officials noticed that buildings create shadows, particularly between sunrise and sunset.
Adams is pro-development and has the support of many development entities and professionals.
The vote against the project near the Botanic Garden should not be viewed as a sign that Adams would oppose a stadium as mayor. Different project that has different issues and had nearly universal public opposition.
In all fairness, that project did look pretty out of place for the neighborhood and would have been very problematic for one of Brooklyn's crown jewels, the Gardens.
Bougie Brooklyn didn’t support Adams. The South Bronx is another story - Adams won’t kill a billion dollar revitalization of an area where his constituents live.
He’s about to have 9 million constituents.
Or did you mean other brown people?
im referring to the primary voting maps. Bronx heavily voted for Adams while Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn didn’t.
We have a client that may or may not run Related Co. he said the Yankees suck and Levine sucks. They will not jump off the tracks. The Yankees will get what they want or this deal will die.
And NYCFC is just along for the ride. Yankees are running the show.
And NYCFC is just along for the ride. Yankees are running the show.
The Yankees are the only ones who have nothing to lose if this deal doesn't go through (except for maybe an extra year or two of sharing their stadium).
Also - Mayor to be Adams is a very big fan of our plans in the South Bronx
Does it ever get to the point where the Yankees just say thanks, but no thanks to NYCFC renting the stadium out?
i feel they are in that mood right now.
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Boy, if that's possible, whoever wrote the original agreement with them should have their legal license revoked.
Couldn't the Yankees just structure their schedule in a way where it becomes increasingly difficult to find more than a handful of matches for NYCFC to play there?
I don't think the Yankees have complete control over their schedule as that is almost certainly put together by MLB.Couldn't the Yankees just structure their schedule in a way where it becomes increasingly difficult to find more than a handful of matches for NYCFC to play there?
For sure, and it's crazily complex. I think it was
FredMertz who recently told us he knows someone who used to work on the comparatively much simpler NFL schedule and that was ridiculously complicated.I've always assumed without evidence that since NYCFC came along the Yankees added the stadium share as a lesser factor for MLB to please consider, but against all the other things MLB and the Yankees care about, it's extremely low priority, and as a practical matter it might have 0 effect on the algorithmic output. I expect a contrary request would play out the same way.
Meanwhile NYCFC/MLS have made it harder to accommodate them: both now try to avoid FIFA breaks more than they did in 2015-17, and a few years ago MLS decided to almost eliminate Saturday afternoon games in hot summer months, and NYCFC had a lot of those in first few years because Yankees often start homestands on Tuesday nights and that fit the 72-hour rule.
I do wonder whether the Yankees have some regrets about the NYCFC investment, and I would not be surprised to see them divest once the stadium issue is behind everyone. I think that the Yankees believe that a new NYCFC stadium and related development that pays off some of the bondholder debt (which is a headache for them even though they are not on the hook), pays to destroy some of the eyesore garages while keeping some amount of spots guaranteed, and improves the neighborhood, is in their interest. But once that's done, I can easily seem them splitting up.
For sure, and it's crazily complex. I think it was
I've always assumed without evidence that since NYCFC came along the Yankees added the stadium share as a lesser factor for MLB to please consider, but against all the other things MLB and the Yankees care about, it's extremely low priority, and as a practical matter it might have 0 effect on the algorithmic output. I expect a contrary request would play out the same way.
Meanwhile NYCFC/MLS have made it harder to accommodate them: both now try to avoid FIFA breaks more than they did in 2015-17, and a few years ago MLS decided to almost eliminate Saturday afternoon games in hot summer months, and NYCFC had a lot of those in first few years because Yankees often start homestands on Tuesday nights and that fit the 72-hour rule.
I do wonder whether the Yankees have some regrets about the NYCFC investment, and I would not be surprised to see them divest once the stadium issue is behind everyone. I think that the Yankees believe that a new NYCFC stadium and related development that pays off some of the bondholder debt (which is a headache for them even though they are not on the hook), pays to destroy some of the eyesore garages while keeping some amount of spots guaranteed, and improves the neighborhood, is in their interest. But once that's done, I can easily seem them splitting up.
Unfortunately, I don't think the Yankees will ever sale. If a stadium gets built, they will have Legends run the food services and just rake in the money for their selling overprice alcohol and soggy fries. I just hope they don't sell Pinstripe beer in the new stadium. If the Yankees sold, it would be interesting though to see if CFG looks for another American investor, or just bring everything under the mothership.
Couple of thoughts. There’s a question in here but I don’t know how to ask it.
We pay $1 million a match to rent the stadium. I don’t understand why the Yankees would want us out. They also pocket the concession revenue.
The Yankees are poorly run. Have been for a decade just about. Coincides with us getting into bed with them. From the outside looking in, it seems like CFG has partnered with existing entities or teams in certain cities and taken aless active role.
We pay $1 million a match to rent the stadium. I don’t understand why the Yankees would want us out. They also pocket the concession revenue.
The Yankees are poorly run. Have been for a decade just about. Coincides with us getting into bed with them. From the outside looking in, it seems like CFG has partnered with existing entities or teams in certain cities and taken aless active role.
