Stadium Discussion

[mgarbowski]

Again: New York City will be allotted at most 2 casinos, and very possibly just 1. There are 10 competing casino proposals in the city as of a few months ago. Cohen might get the license. Somebody has to. But the odds are against everybody and these plans probably will not advance.

 

[DeGrozz]

Right - the obvious solution for all the paved over parkland was to stack the parking and return the green space. If the cost of that is to build a casino - maybe not worth it to me, but something to consider.

All I know for sure is that I really like that SAC's rendering includes a beautiful new soccer stadium on the right hand side.

Ha! That was the first think I looked for!

 

[Brooklyn Blue]

I doubt Cohen's bid will be the one accepted - and I also would be curious as to zoning compliance of parking with what would appear to be a reduciton in spaces (stacked structures or not).

Hard Rock is also a second tier player when it comes to casinos.

 

[DeGrozz]

Again: New York City will be allotted at most 2 casinos, and very possibly just 1. There are 10 competing casino proposals in the city as of a few months ago. Cohen might get the license. Somebody has to. But the odds are against everybody and these plans probably will not advance.

Reading that article, it certainly seems like Cohen has the inside track. Sounds like all 5 Manhattan proposals are nearly dead on arrival and Cohen is the best of the rest. That info is from early this year though.

 

[mgarbowski]

Reading that article, it certainly seems like Cohen has the inside track. Sounds like all 5 Manhattan proposals are nearly dead on arrival and Cohen is the best of the rest. That info is from early this year though.

He does have one of the most well developed proposals, and so far no CB votes in opposition. But I expect the local CB might end up opposing, plus he has to get the state to approve it, which is an obstacle no other site faces. I wouldn't discount Aqueduct either. It could come down to whether NYC gets 1 or 2 of the 3 for downstate.

 

[ZYanksRule]

At the very least, it doesn't seem like Cohen's plan is close to approval. Our plan wasn't announced until the government was on board with it. This seems like he's trying to pressure the City into agreeing to the proposal.

Maybe this happens in like 10-15 years, but this seems like the kind of proposal that isn't anywhere close.

 

[franchise646]

Cohen is trying to get his deal done, it doesn't look like he getting what he wants.

 

[DeGrozz]

He does have one of the most well developed proposals, and so far no CB votes in opposition. But I expect the local CB might end up opposing, plus he has to get the state to approve it, which is an obstacle no other site faces. I wouldn't discount Aqueduct either. It could come down to whether NYC gets 1 or 2 of the 3 for downstate.

Appreciate the info!

 

[FootyLovin]

Agree, if you also set aside his excessive concern for ferrets.

Wait a second. Who doesn't love ferrets??

 

[JCMore]

Yeah, green rooftops vs solar panel rooftops. Which one is better?

Depends on how they are maintained. Solar panels can be great for green energy but if not tuned and cleaned yearly can become very inefficient and fall off the grid constantly. A green roof can be used for gardening or left to grow passive. Passive growing of wild plants and weeds can be good for birds and insects. But again if it’s not maintained or watered
or anything it will just die. Both options are probably just green washing if I had to guess the character cohen.

 

[Gotham Gator]

Short discussion on what Cohen is up against.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/steve-cohen-mets-citi-field-queens-casino-bid.html

 

[LionNYC]

Should I rename this the "Stadium & Possible Next Door Casino Thread"? Lol

 

[LionNYC]

Given that we know the stadium will be in Queens, what ideas do you have for the poll on top?

 

[twsj91]

Given that we know the stadium will be in Queens, what ideas do you have for the poll on top?

What percentage season tickets will increase when the stadium opens lol

 

[Revfugee]

Wait a second. Who doesn't love ferrets??

I don’t. They are fun to watch but they are stinky and untrustworthy.

I also don’t love Rudy who, come to think of it, is at least one if not both of those things.

 

[LionNYC]

What percentage season tickets will increase when the stadium opens lol

I'm not giving the front office any help with this...

 

[Joe_Cos]

I'm not giving the front office any help with this...

I was going to suggest a poll how the FO would shaft long time season holder in the new stadium, but then I thought of the same thing.

 

[Gotham Gator]

Well, what are we curious about regarding the new stadium?

- Actual # of seats
- # of independent craft beers on sale
- how many food vendors are shitty Legends leftovers
- Bricks?
- Size of the Pitch
- David Villa statue?
- Trophy Room?
- Size of Price Increase

 

[SoupInNYC]

Well, what are we curious about regarding the new stadium?

- David Villa statue?

I'm guessing this one is no longer in the works

 

[gbservis]

Well, what are we curious about regarding the new stadium?

- Actual # of seats
- # of independent craft beers on sale
- how many food vendors are shitty Legends leftovers
- Bricks?
- Size of the Pitch
- David Villa statue?
- Trophy Room?
- Size of Price Increase

Sadly the craft beer question will come down to whether or not they make the exclusivity deal many stadiums make with Budwiser. If they make the deal it will be 90% of the same generic Budweiser "craft" beer we get at Yankee Stadium. There are so many great local craft beer options that wouldn't be there in that setup.

That said I do understand why the stadiums do it even beyond whatever money or pricing Budweiser offers. I have a couple of friends who work in the craft beer industry in NYC and there are a lot of logistical challenges dealing with the smaller local breweries. They often use smaller distributors or in some cases if the brewery is small enough they self-distribute. That means managing orders, delivery schedules, and keg returns with multiple different sources that oftentimes provide very broad delivery windows. It's challenging even for the beer bars that are open every day and have their entire business model structured around craft beer.