Burley fumes at 'pathetic' venue choice for USMNT vs. Honduras - ESPN Video
Craig Burley lets rip on the USMNT for hosting a crucial World Cup Qualifier in freezing Minnesota.
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Get a grip people.
And screw Burley. Just because his country invented the word "soccer" he thinks he gets to define the right way to host games.
And screw Burley. Just because his country invented the word "soccer" he thinks he gets to define the right way to host games.
Choosing to play in Minnesota in early February quite frankly is Mickey Mouse, Bush league, pathetic....
The USMNT organization is scared to lose not eager to win.
The USMNT organization is scared to lose not eager to win.
I mean...apart from the whole tirade about the US being a small minded team etc.(which is bluster on his part, because that's his role on that show) he does make a sensible point that we should be fielding the best team on the best field as possible.
This whole debate is moot if the US comes out with 3 points tonight, but I don't see how this venue and climate benefits the US or plays to their strengths.
exactly. burley is being burley. there are very few things he actually doesn't go on a tirade about. but i don't think anybody outside of US soccer disagrees with the sentiment and illogical decision to play in MN in february.
I'm looking forward to the clever memes that come out of this whole fiasco. Especially if romell quito goes ham and puts the US away. twellman will blow his top and GB will say "we dominated"
It's hard to say. I think everyone was very pleased with where things stood at the end of the summer. The road since then has been more mixed. He's got to get things turned around on offense, that's for sure.
Supposedly there won't be wind in the stadium. But still-- this is an absolute embarrassment. I wouldn't blame Honduras for just forfeiting in protest (they are out of it anyway). This whole thing will really backfire if someone gets hurt related to the frigid conditions
There is apparently some sort of pay dispute between the players and the federation. 3 more points for Canada.
If we beat Panama at home in the next cycle, we're in. There are other ways to qualify, but if we beat Panama nothing else needs to matter.
If we beat Panama and do nothing else, we have 24 points, and the most points Panama can finish with would be 23.
Current
Canada 25 +14
USA 21 +9
Mexico 18 +5
Panama 17 +2
Remaining Games
CAN CR A, JAM H, PAN A
USA MEX A, PAN H, CR A
MEX USA H, HON A, SLV H
PAN HON H, USA A, CAN H
Panama is almost certain to beat Honduras, so even if the US grabs a win in Mexico, Panama will stay 4 back. That would let us qualify with a draw against Panama. Mexico would be 6 back, but with easy games to finish.
I would not assume Canada will relax in the last game. There's a good chance they have an opportunity to go undefeated, and while it matters almost not at all, I think they'd want to achieve it.
Beat Panama, at home, go to the World Cup. The US has 5 W and 1 D at home.
If we beat Panama and do nothing else, we have 24 points, and the most points Panama can finish with would be 23.
Current
Canada 25 +14
USA 21 +9
Mexico 18 +5
Panama 17 +2
Remaining Games
CAN CR A, JAM H, PAN A
USA MEX A, PAN H, CR A
MEX USA H, HON A, SLV H
PAN HON H, USA A, CAN H
Panama is almost certain to beat Honduras, so even if the US grabs a win in Mexico, Panama will stay 4 back. That would let us qualify with a draw against Panama. Mexico would be 6 back, but with easy games to finish.
I would not assume Canada will relax in the last game. There's a good chance they have an opportunity to go undefeated, and while it matters almost not at all, I think they'd want to achieve it.
Beat Panama, at home, go to the World Cup. The US has 5 W and 1 D at home.
Apparently ESPN hadn’t updated the table when I looked even though they had the Mexico score up.
Costa Rica can finish on 25 points. I believe your example guarantees us at least top 4, until Costa Rica drops a point.
Their intern must have fallen asleep during the game like I did!
After watching the game last night and thinking it over, I am of the opinion that the concern about the conditions last night has been hugely overblown.
It was very cold, yes, but it's not difficult to adjust if you are going to spend 90 minutes running around and burning energy. The fans had none of that, and it was a sold out stadium where they enjoyed themselves. I don't think it affected the game at all, except perhaps to add moderately to Honduras' lethargy and indifference.
If I faced a forecast of single digit temperatures for my Sunday morning soccer game, I would have just layered up, gone out, and had a good time. Is this really any different? And I am hardly a pro athlete with modern equipment and top conditioning.
I do think there is a fair question about whether our strategy to gain an advantage from the cold was a sound one, but that's separate from whether it is appropriate to play in those conditions.
It was very cold, yes, but it's not difficult to adjust if you are going to spend 90 minutes running around and burning energy. The fans had none of that, and it was a sold out stadium where they enjoyed themselves. I don't think it affected the game at all, except perhaps to add moderately to Honduras' lethargy and indifference.
If I faced a forecast of single digit temperatures for my Sunday morning soccer game, I would have just layered up, gone out, and had a good time. Is this really any different? And I am hardly a pro athlete with modern equipment and top conditioning.
I do think there is a fair question about whether our strategy to gain an advantage from the cold was a sound one, but that's separate from whether it is appropriate to play in those conditions.
Oof. Multiple mistakes. CR plays:
CAN H, SLV A, USA H
So let's hope Canada gets at least a draw. If they do, CR has a max of 23 and we still qualify at 24 with a win over Panama.
I cannot find a good site to rely on for these. ESPN also isn't showing the full score history. CONCACAF itself has a mess of a website. I've checked a few others and it seems everyone is missing something or has slow updates.
Oddly, wikipedia is always the best at this. If I want to look something up WCQ related, I just go to wikipedia.
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