White Supremacists In Supporter Section

I know the leader of this group personally. He’s a business professional in NYC and members of that group also live and work in NYC. They didn’t want their faces in any way shape or form associated with hate groups and hate speech. Rightfully so.
They weren’t even called out by the article. Yet they still made a statement to protect their integrity and the integrity of their members.
okay and im friends with plenty of people in NYC12 as well. My point is simply that the article still used them to further their political agenda to the point where they felt they needed to make a statement.
 
I don't think that analogy is solid. People are born in cities, have family ties and support networks in cities. Therefore, they tend to remain in those cities. Nobody is born affiliated to a 4 year old soccer club with the obligation to sit in a specific section of the club's stadium that is noticeably populated by Latinos and where at least 50% of the chants are in Spanish. It is weird.

What’s wrong with Latinos?

And why can’t other people sit in the supporters section?
 
I know the leader of this group personally. He’s a business professional in NYC and members of that group also live and work in NYC. They didn’t want their faces in any way shape or form associated with hate groups and hate speech. Rightfully so.
They weren’t even called out by the article. Yet they still made a statement to protect their integrity and the integrity of their members.

Edit - I’m pretty sure they still sit in the section below SS, right behind goal.
Isn't NYC12 apart of NYCSC? I thought NYCSC absorbed all of the straggler groups for the sake of organizing everything, but kept the individual natures of each group? (I could be 100% wrong here, just how I interpreted it all)
 
Isn't NYC12 apart of NYCSC? I thought NYCSC absorbed all of the straggler groups for the sake of organizing everything, but kept the individual natures of each group? (I could be 100% wrong here, just how I interpreted it all)
100% wrong. They’ve been around since the inaugural season. They’re also BBSC Brown bag SC. Our fellow admin that retired from here was in it as well. They were all at our first ever party at Ryan’s Daughter.
They started NYC12 in the second season. Brown bag was a social club of beer afficianatos and NYC12 acted as the in stadium supporter group. It was third rail without the politics as there was a lot of drama in the early years.
 
100% wrong. They’ve been around since the inaugural season. They’re also BBSC Brown bag SC. Our fellow admin that retired from here was in it as well. They were all at our first ever party at Ryan’s Daughter.
They started NYC12 in the second season. Brown bag was a social club of beer afficianatos and NYC12 acted as the in stadium supporter group. It was third rail without the politics as there was a lot of drama in the early years.
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Always thought NYCSC absorbed BrownBag, NYC12 and others.

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I know the leader of this group personally. He’s a business professional in NYC and members of that group also live and work in NYC. They didn’t want their faces in any way shape or form associated with hate groups and hate speech. Rightfully so.
They weren’t even called out by the article. Yet they still made a statement to protect their integrity and the integrity of their members.

Edit - I’m pretty sure they still sit in the section below SS, right behind goal.
NYC12 is in 235, a little sliver of a section but still in the bleachers with the supporters section. They're a good group of people. Not in the area below the bleachers.
 
Whatever you want really, but I’d be hard pressed to believe these people actually are political fascists. That just seems incorrect

I’ll choose to use Nazis then as that most accurately defines their hatred of other groups and their political goals.
 
NYC12 is in 235, a little sliver of a section but still in the bleachers with the supporters section. They're a good group of people. Not in the area below the bleachers.
Ah okay they may have moved then. I know they used to be just below the bleachers like in the area in the picture.
 
So did NYC12 just pull a Barbara Streisand here and create a conversation around something when none existed? Did I miss nyc12 being mentioned specifically in the article? Or were they just unhappy that a general photo of the supporters sexrion was used (which I can understand)
 
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once again this is just an AFAIK, but they arent condoning it. There may be a couple members who are okay with them but as a whole they dont. The supporters group itself is mostly minorities. To think they support something like that is absurd. And i cant say for certain but SC is also probably the current largest supporters group. Not sure if its surpassed third rail or not yet. Thats like asking a catholic to no longer be catholic because a couple priests did some shitty shit.
You need to understand the difference between implicit and explicit.

Your Catholic analogy is bad on many levels. The first being your insistence on equating membership in a religious group with more than a billion members to membership in a soccer team supporters group with maybe 100. Different in scope, time invested and importance in people’s lives.

You know those are not the same yet you continue to make that bad faith argument.

If you were a member of a a parish where bad things happened that the leadership knew about and ignored, then yes, if you don’t leave that parish you are implicit condoning that behavior. You should change your neighborhood (the parish) not abandon Catholicism.

Consistently dialing everyone’s statements up to 11 is not a credible way to make an argument. You’re a slippery slope, straw man, false equivalency natural.
 
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You need to understand the difference between implicit and explicit.

Your Catholic analogy is bad on many levels. The first being your insistence on equating membership in a religious group with more than a billion members to membership in a soccer team supporters group with maybe 100. Different in scope, time invested and importance in people’s lives.

You know those are not the same yet you continue to make that bad faith argument.

If you were a member of a a parish where bad things happened that the leadership knew about and ignored, then yes, if you don’t leave that parish you are implicit condoning that behavior. You should change your neighborhood (the parish) not abandon Catholicism.

Consistently dialing everyone’s statements up to 11 is not a credible way to make an argument. You’re a slippery slope, straw man, false equivalency natural.
i think you fail to realize how big SC is... they are probably the largest active NYCFC supporters group.

Also im once again choosing to ignore the personal insults.
 
okay and im friends with plenty of people in NYC12 as well. My point is simply that the article still used them to further their political agenda to the point where they felt they needed to make a statement.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think the article used NYC12 at all to further any agenda or anything.

They didn’t mention them by name, they just used a photo of the supporters section and that photo happened to have a flag with the NYC12 logo in it.
 
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If that’s the thought then all they have to do is what they’ve been asked to do, publicly condemn them.
According to their twitter they haven’t even acknowledged the article or NYCFC’s response to it.
They’re just pretending it doesn’t exists. Which is contrary to your response, that members don’t want to be associated with them.
Agreed. And while they haven't acknowledged this article, they have actually acknowledged this to some degree in the past (also included in the article).