I think I’ve said this before, since it’s not the first contract like this. But whomever is handing out contract of $2,000,000.04 or $1,000,000.07 should be fired yesterday. Those are benchmark numbers and the league has shown time and again they use them to determine things like TAM. Why fuck the team over to be cute? You want to be cute, cut him a check for $1,999,999.81. Then hand him a quarter at the closing table. They have to stop with this bullshit, who’s idea is this??? It’s a business, treat it like one.
2019 Roster Discussion
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I think I’ve said this before, since it’s not the first contract like this. But whomever is handing out contract of $2,000,000.04 or $1,000,000.07 should be fired yesterday. Those are benchmark numbers and the league has shown time and again they use them to determine things like TAM. Why fuck the team over to be cute? You want to be cute, cut him a check for $1,999,999.81. Then hand him a quarter at the closing table. They have to stop with this bullshit, who’s idea is this??? It’s a business, treat it like one.
looking at other salaries, many have similar 4 cents stuff. Maybe it has to do with certain taxes or fees etc and it marks them out like that, not all in power of the Teams.
So did we signs someone? An academy kid? I’ve seen nothing from the club but it’s been discussed here.
I'm sure the club will make signings that reassure us of their ambition and that will make us all happy.
So there's a new poll up in its place. But apparently it is an old poll, in which I previously voted. I think it must date to the Maxi or Medina signing. In any event I changed my vote, but until everyone does the results are probably misleading.
At this point there should be a option #4: DP. I’m not convinced the club will make their DP the Splash Signing.
Serious question for everyone, and I'd like as much of a detailed explanation as possible as to why you picked your option:
Would you prefer the next DP to be:
A) A veteran (Age 30-33) with name recognition that has a higher probability of being hurt (Plays in 20 of 34 games) but contributes when on the field consistently
B) A older veteran (Age 34-37) with larger name recognition with a high probability of being hurt (Plays 20 of 34 games) but contributes less when on the field
C) A young upstart (18-22) with little name recognition with low probability of being hurt (Plays 30 of 34 games) but is inconsistent with contributions on the field
D) An experienced player (23-28) with absolutely no name recognition with low probability of being hurt (Plays 33 of 34 games) but contributes consistently when on the field
Genuinely curious as to your responses and reasoning for selecting the option you did.
Would you prefer the next DP to be:
A) A veteran (Age 30-33) with name recognition that has a higher probability of being hurt (Plays in 20 of 34 games) but contributes when on the field consistently
B) A older veteran (Age 34-37) with larger name recognition with a high probability of being hurt (Plays 20 of 34 games) but contributes less when on the field
C) A young upstart (18-22) with little name recognition with low probability of being hurt (Plays 30 of 34 games) but is inconsistent with contributions on the field
D) An experienced player (23-28) with absolutely no name recognition with low probability of being hurt (Plays 33 of 34 games) but contributes consistently when on the field
Genuinely curious as to your responses and reasoning for selecting the option you did.
I'm not sure the categories capture the options? For example, Villa is category A in performance but B in age. Also, by making category B have both lowered performance and high injury likelihood, I cant imagine any reason for choosing it. It's your question, but I would revise them to something like this:
A. Veteran aged 30-33 with moderately high name recognition and solid performance. Age entails risk of either lower performance and/or injury, but no signs of either as of yet.
B. Veteran aged 34-37. Extremely high name recognition and career greatness, but signs have occurred that the risk of either significant injury or reduced performance (or both) might be imminent.
To me, that's a choice that's tougher to consider, before you even look at C and D.
Not really looking for specific names or player comparisons, like the Villa mention, just trying to see where peoples minds are at when looking for a DP. Villa is kinda like a Unicorn in this league as far as DP goes and I don't think we'll ever see anyone like him in the league again for a while but appreciate the feedback none the less!
I'd go with D or A. A because people will be attracted, D because we'll have a chance!
In a perfect world D (paws) is what I would want but who knows with this club.
I'm not trying to be glib, but the team should sign the player they believe will be the most impactful to the organization. Whether that's a mixture of on-field only or partially off-field, the DP should be someone who can step in help achieve our goals.
We shouldn't look for a player that fits boxes, we should look for a player that will be able to perform. Whether that's a Maxi Medina type, a Jesus Medina type, or a David Villa type is irrelevant to me.
You don’t fly to Manchester to re-sign with NYC. It’s been sweet. And appreciated him doing everything he could to come back and play this year for playoffs. Good luck to him.
But you also probably don't need to fly to Manchester if you've already figured out where you're going next. Herrera's trying his best to move but we're still a fallback option if he can't find the right midseason loan in Europe.
HOT TAKE:
I'm slowly gravitating toward the opinion that DPs don't actually matter more than hitting on your TAM level players. For example, I'd rather have something like 10 players making $500,000-$1,500,000 and their play showing that the deserve it than blowing our cash on a $5,000,000 DP and being hit-and-miss on a couple TAM guys.
Under this theory, players like Medina makes a ton of sense for DPs. From a cap management perspective, compare these two options under a spending budget of $6mm:
PLAYER / COST / CAP HIT
Medina / $600k / $200k (DP)
Ring / $550k + $400k DTAM / $150k
Diomande / $850k + $700k DTAM / $150k
TOTAL: $3.1mm / $500k
PLAYER / COST / CAP HIT
Villa / $6mm / $500k (DP)
TOTAL: $6mm / $500k
For the same cap hit, we got three very quality players for $3 million less in actual costs that can be allocated elsewhere on the roster, infrastructure, fan experience, or academy. Of course, you have to be successful with the players you bring in, but the upside is higher under this method than putting all your eggs in the DP basket and sacrificing 2-3 TAM level players.
So given all that, sign another Medina. But I wanna know what 26 year olds that aren't breaking thru to Champions League in Europe and available on a free for us to spend some of that DTAM on...
Here's your Villa replacement class, just pulling a few forwards from the high end of the TAM range on expiring contracts between 23-30 years old without looking into them beyond that:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/robert-beric/profil/spieler/91415
https://www.transfermarkt.com/laurent-depoitre/profil/spieler/90583
https://www.transfermarkt.com/sergi-enrich/leistungsdaten/spieler/81988
https://www.transfermarkt.com/fran-sol/profil/spieler/164292
https://www.transfermarkt.com/josip-drmic/profil/spieler/140579
https://www.transfermarkt.com/franco-di-santo/profil/spieler/59783
Diomande was a free transfer from Hull, 28 years old, and a Transfermarkt value of 1.5 million euros, for comparison. Gotta scout and hit right, but that's probably the right play. Hell, we can afford two for a smaller cap hit and less actual cost than spending $6 million on another Villa type.
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