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All of the NWSL players who play for the WNT are paid by the USSF
 

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When I looked into this a few weeks ago my understanding was the NT pays women members up to 2 salaries. One for being on the NT roster. A second if she plays for the NWSL. I'm only 98% certain of this because it was never stated that definitively. But it was definitely implied. And it also doesn't make sense for the US Soccer federation to pay Alex Morgan the same salary when she plays in Orlando as when she plays in Lyon. One helps grow the US women's league the the other doesn't. Let Lyon pay their own salaries without US Soccer subsidies. So I'm all but certain the salary is split.
 

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OK. Maybe I misread Seth's post as stating that USWNT members were paid monthly by the federation instead of their NWSL teams, rather than on top of their NWSL teams. Or maybe I'm just totally lost...
It’s extremely convoluted and a reason why the lawsuit, while excellent conceptually, is deeply flawed in reality. They’re comparing apples to oranges and want the best case situation across the board with both NT payments and continued league salary/stipend.
 
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Matt Doyle just said that he thinks Joe Scally’s long term position will end up being CB.
Where would he get that idea unless an insider talked to him?

If it’s true, and he’s competent at CB, then his value will skyrocket as a CB with mad-like technical skills that can carry the ball and attack through the spine.
 

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Earlier this year, the Club regraded Scally as a better prospect long term than Sands. I wonder if that’s because they think he’s Sands’ replacement. He’s certainly a better athlete.
 

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Earlier this year, the Club regraded Scally as a better prospect long term than Sands. I wonder if that’s because they think he’s Sands’ replacement. He’s certainly a better athlete.
Scally is better than Sands, yet Scally has never gotten a debut???
 

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Matt Doyle just said that he thinks Joe Scally’s long term position will end up being CB.
Other things Matthew Doyle has said about NYCFC...

1. Have 0 percent chance of making the playoffs in 2016.
2. LA Galaxy academy will beat NYCFC in USDA Championship in 2018.
3. NYCFC will finish 8th in the East in 2019.

Most of Doyle's takes about NYCFC have not just been bad, they've been wrong. I don't believe anything this guy speaks, writes, thinks about NYCFC.

Tweet in mention, this is for the USMNT U20s, not necessarily NYCFC where we see him as a RB.
 
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Other things Matthew Doyle has said about NYCFC...

1. Have 0 percent chance of making the playoffs in 2016.
2. LA Galaxy academy will beat NYCFC in USDA Championship in 2018.
3. NYCFC will finish 8th in the East in 2019.

Most of Doyle's takes about NYCFC have not just been bad, they've been wrong. I don't believe anything this guy speaks, writes, thinks about NYCFC.

Tweet in mention, this is for the USMNT U20s, not necessarily NYCFC where we see him as a RB.
Doyle’s take on NYCFC in 2019 was before Heber arrived. His take was 100% on point with the information available at that time and proven by our results at the time.

It’s easy to dump on Doyle, but do it and be fair about it.
 

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Other things Matthew Doyle has said about NYCFC...

1. Have 0 percent chance of making the playoffs in 2016.
2. LA Galaxy academy will beat NYCFC in USDA Championship in 2018.
3. NYCFC will finish 8th in the East in 2019.

Most of Doyle's takes about NYCFC have not just been bad, they've been wrong. I don't believe anything this guy speaks, writes, thinks about NYCFC.

Tweet in mention, this is for the USMNT U20s, not necessarily NYCFC where we see him as a RB.
Here’s the point. Why would Doyle have an opinion about a kid that’s been injured all year and has never featured for us unless someone told him to have an opinion?
 
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Doyle’s take on NYCFC in 2019 was before Heber arrived. His take was 100% on point with the information available at that time and proven by our results at the time.

It’s easy to dump on Doyle, but do it and be fair about it.
He made the prediction before the season started. We had no results at that point. He was saying there was 7 teams better in the East before the season started. And you could believe that NYCFC would go out and get the asset it needed compared to other teams in the East.
 

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He made the prediction before the season started. We had no results at that point. He was saying there was 7 teams better in the East before the season started. And you could believe that NYCFC would go out and get the asset it needed compared to other teams in the East.
Don’t get defensive. It was easy to see we were a train wreck before the season and considering the shit show Dome was the end of last year. And no, it wasn’t a given we’d get the players we needed - we whiffed on a few before Mitrita and he hasn’t panned out yet. Heber was lucky as a TAM.
 
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He made the prediction before the season started. We had no results at that point. He was saying there was 7 teams better in the East before the season started. And you could believe that NYCFC would go out and get the asset it needed compared to other teams in the East.
I think a lot of us agreed with him. And he looked like he was right unt Heber joined. The guy is our BWP. Arguably a better player for us than Villa
 

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It's also unfair to hold the 2016 prediction against Doyle. I don't know exactly when he made it, but after 15 games, of which 9 were Home, the team had 1.20 PPG. The 3 previous games were RBW, Home draw with Orlando, Home loss to RSL. Expecting the team to jump to 1.89 PPG was a stretch in the remaining games was a less than obvious.

Also after that Orlando game, I said I didn't think NYCFC would make the playoffs. LionNYC LionNYC agreed.

And if you're going to bash Doyle for getting NYCFC predictions wrong it's odd just to pick on the negative takes. How about this from March 2018: "Through three weeks Medina looks like a star, and through three weeks NYCFC look like they're the best team in the league. They're a good bet to stay up near the top of the table all season once again, and are the odds-on favorite to win themselves a spot in next year's CCL."

There's a whole lot of wrong in that quote. It might be the most wrong thing anybody has ever written about NYCFC. But all of it was positive for NYCFC at the time, so nobody remembers it, because everyone, even fans of LAFC, LAG, Atlanta and Cascadia are convinced that MLS digital is unfair to them and just remembers the stuff that annoyed them at the time. But if anyone were truly keeping track of Doyle's wrong takes about NYCFC that quote would be high on the list.
 
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Is this team now better than it was under PV last June?
I think so. We’re more dynamic, less reliant on 1 player (villa), can make in-game adjustments and cater our game plan to the opponent. We also have depth at every position except fullback (which happens to be where we didn’t upgrade this year).

PVs best qualities were recruiting, and player communication. And in those areas Dome is not as good. But the club has done a good job with most their moves since PV left. And Dome is getting better with communication.

On thing I miss was the simplicity of PVs 433. I could explain it pretty clearly to my GF and she’d get it. Now I mention inverted fullbacks and she stares back blankly and then looks at Instagram the rest of the match.
 

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It's also unfair to hold the 2016 prediction against Doyle. I don't know exactly when he made it, but after 15 games, of which 9 were Home, the team had 1.20 PPG. The 3 previous games were RBW, Home draw with Orlando, Home loss to RSL. Expecting the team to jump to 1.89 PPG was a stretch in the remaining games was a less than obvious.

Also after that Orlando game, I said I didn't think NYCFC would make the playoffs. LionNYC LionNYC agreed.

And if you're going to bash Doyle for getting NYCFC predictions wrong it's odd just to pick on the negative takes. How about this from March 2018: "Through three weeks Medina looks like a star, and through three weeks NYCFC look like they're the best team in the league. They're a good bet to stay up near the top of the table all season once again, and are the odds-on favorite to win themselves a spot in next year's CCL."

There's a whole lot of wrong in that quote. It might be the most wrong thing anybody has ever written about NYCFC. But all of it was positive for NYCFC at the time, so nobody remembers it, because everyone, even fans of LAFC, LAG, Atlanta and Cascadia are convinced that MLS digital is unfair to them and just remembers the stuff that annoyed them at the time. But if anyone were truly keeping track of Doyle's wrong takes about NYCFC that quote would be high on the list.
If we were to complain about being disregarded and disdained by MLS digital it would be now, when we are second in the East on PPG with games on hand and an apparently soft schedule ahead, and their talking head mention every team but us as a candidate to finish up top. This week, for the first time, there was a lady in their panel whom I had never seen before and she mentioned NYCFC as a candidate. I'm sure she'll get banished.
 

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If we were to complain about being disregarded and disdained by MLS digital it would be now, when we are second in the East on PPG with games on hand and an apparently soft schedule ahead, and their talking head mention every team but us as a candidate to finish up top. This week, for the first time, there was a lady in their panel whom I had never seen before and she mentioned NYCFC as a candidate. I'm sure she'll get banished.
The Power Rankings probably represent a decent compilation of the MLS media team's views. Early this month we were ranked #2. Given LAFC's dominance, that is as high as could be expected. After 2 straight losses we dropped to 6, which is a bit harsh, but the 5 teams ahead of us were LAFC, the 2 teams who beat us (debatable but I get it) the Quakes (hottest team excluding March), and Seattle. I think today we'll be at 4.
And I get your point about the videos. I suspect the group as a whole thinks better of us than Warshaw and Doyle right now. And I'm guessing they remember this team slumping in the final third 2 years in a row and they're taking a "show me" stance.