2019 Offseason Thread

[Kjbert]

When it’s really cold or wet they train indoors in a retractable dome.

 

[LionNYC]

Wait, so you guys are saying NYCFC could have a player sign a contract with CFG instead of MLS. Do you think they would announce it as if they signed with MLS/NYCFC? Nah, that’s crazy talk.

Also, since we’re delving into Lampardgate territory, it brings up that FIFA rule that a player can sign with 3 different teams over 1 season. But only play for 2 in that same season.

What's 1 season when MLS and Europe are on different timetables?

 

[SoupInNYC]

Wait, so you guys are saying NYCFC could have a player sign a contract with CFG instead of MLS. Do you think they would announce it as if they signed with MLS/NYCFC? Nah, that’s crazy talk.

Also, since we’re delving into Lampardgate territory, it brings up that FIFA rule that a player can sign with 3 different teams over 1 season. But only play for 2 in that same season.

Play for? Or train with?

 

[adam]

Play for? Or train with?

They way I read it is eligible to play. So training should be fine. If an attorney wants to take a stab at it, I only slept at a Holiday Inn last night.

 

[SoupInNYC]

They way I read it is eligible to play. So training should be fine. If an attorney wants to take a stab at it, I only slept at a Holiday Inn last night.

Lol. I also didn't intend to go this far down this rabbit hole. Mainly just wanted to point out that it's possible the timing could be somewhat advantageous for a signing or two while Visas are worked out.

 

[BxLio91]

Not a huge fan of us going to the UAE at any time during the year but if it can remind the sheikh that we exist I guess it's not so bad.

 

[FootyLovin]

A couple more grey boxes so I figured I'd post an update.

Also, I know how this place loves more fodder for pessimism ...

 

[adam]

A couple more grey boxes so I figured I'd post an update.

Also, I know how this place loves more fodder for pessimism ...

I’ll nitpick at trivialities becuase there’s little else going on. Shelton was a draft pick, so wrong color. And speaking of the drafts, what about Awuah, Caldwell, and the kid we pissed away $75k GAM for last week?

 

[Ulrich]

I’ll nitpick at trivialities becuase there’s little else going on. Shelton was a draft pick, so wrong color. And speaking of the drafts, what about Awuah, Caldwell, and the kid we pissed away $75k GAM for last week?

Only counts when signed, right? Last week’s draft pick is probably still negotiating

 

[adam]

Only counts when signed, right? Last week’s draft pick is probably still negotiating

We’ll sign him if we paid $75k for him. The other edits are needed. And while I’m at it. We should probably denote when training camp began each season. Maybe a double line? We really need some news...

 

[gbservis]

A couple more grey boxes so I figured I'd post an update.

Also, I know how this place loves more fodder for pessimism ...

Looking at this chart gives some reason for optimism arguably our two best non-DP free agent signings in club history are Ring and Callens both of whom hadn't been signed by this point in 2017. Although I do feel like we had rumblings of rumors about both by this time in 2017. Last years best signing was ITS which happened around now so maybe we will get some news soon. Trying to be optimistic for a change.

 

[ALBNYfan]

It is official...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1085527734506438656

 

[Kjbert]

I think it’s importent to put into context where a player comes from. gbservis makes a good point about Ring and Callens. European clubs, for better or worse, seem to do their business later in the window than here in the Americas.

 

[Shwafta]

A couple more grey boxes so I figured I'd post an update.

Also, I know how this place loves more fodder for pessimism ...

I love this.
I know it probably would be harder logistically but could you make a similar one with outgoing players as well? Would be interesting to see dates of transfers, release, etc. of players leaving over the years. (And whether said player got a "Thank you" video or not indicated by like a * or something similar)

 

[mgarbowski]

Looking at this chart gives some reason for optimism arguably our two best non-DP free agent signings in club history are Ring and Callens both of whom hadn't been signed by this point in 2017. Although I do feel like we had rumblings of rumors about both by this time in 2017. Last years best signing was ITS which happened around now so maybe we will get some news soon. Trying to be optimistic for a change.

Callens was first mentioned on 1/25 and signed 1/27.
Ring was first mentioned on 1/28 and signed 2/1.

Most of our signings have come within a week after first mention here.
Exceptions include Tinnerholm 2 weeks, Medina 2 weeks, Ofori 3 weeks, Ibeagha > month, Camargo almost 2 months, Herrera 2-3 weeks,

 

[dummyrun]

I don't know whether this is a good or bad sign, but Keaton Parks, who had a Portuguese agent in June, recently started following on Twitter and was followed by Richard Motzkin of the major LA-based agency Wasserman.

Motzkin was Jason Kreis's agent at the time that NYCFC hired him so I figure he owes us one.

 

[sbrylski]

A couple more grey boxes so I figured I'd post an update.

Also, I know how this place loves more fodder for pessimism ...

Can we add a box for when our manager called us a "complete team" each offseason?

 

[FootyLovin]

I love this.
I know it probably would be harder logistically but could you make a similar one with outgoing players as well? Would be interesting to see dates of transfers, release, etc. of players leaving over the years. (And whether said player got a "Thank you" video or not indicated by like a * or something similar)

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure how meaningful this will be as I suspect it will be 95% just a big clump every year around the date the club makes decisions on roster releases. I think my next step will be to add a part two of the chart with during season signings.

 

[FootyLovin]

I’ll nitpick at trivialities becuase there’s little else going on. Shelton was a draft pick, so wrong color. And speaking of the drafts, what about Awuah, Caldwell, and the kid we pissed away $75k GAM for last week?

Thanks. Added Caldwell and Awuah. Will look into trying to figure out when training camp opened every year.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

I don't know whether this is a good or bad sign, but Keaton Parks, who had a Portuguese agent in June, recently started following on Twitter and was followed by Richard Motzkin of the major LA-based agency Wasserman.

Motzkin was Jason Kreis's agent at the time that NYCFC hired him so I figure he owes us one.

He indeed changed agents to Wasserman. I believe it was a couple of months ago.

All of my time on Bigsoccer isn't always a complete waste. I get to act like I know shit here from time to time.