Alexander Ring to NYCFC
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Camargo best position is CAM. He could be like Lamp
We could try:
Lewis/TMac-----Villa------Harrison/Shelton/Camargo
-------------------Ring--------------------
----------Pirlo---------Chanot------------
Matarrita--Callens--Brilliant--Allen----------
We seem to be going after box to box cm type players with decent defensive skills. We don't have to play a dedicated cdm if we flank Pilo with high defensive work rate cms.
Yeah and neither of those players have to right skill set to do that. Bravo was missing the speed and offensive skill to go box to box and position himself in space to unlock Pirlo. Mix had the offensive side down and the work rate but he plays defense like a 12 year old afraid of getting hurt. It looks effective because he's all over the place but when it comes time to make a tackle he pokes at the ball, bounces off and never goes to ground. It might be annoying to the opposition but it rarely resulted in a dispossession or kept the opposition from doing what they wanted.
That's factually incorrect about Mix, but I'm done arguing about him.
grrrr....sitting on my hands right now...
Quick, someone tell me about Ring's passing range.
Quick, someone tell me about Ring's passing range.
Did we? I don't recall this at all, definitely not for any significant period of time.
I agree that a "flat" midfield of Ring - Pirlo - CM could work great with the right two mids alongside Pirlo, in theory.
My mind is going, but I thought before we went with Iraola that Bravo was the choice, and he never sat back like a CDM
I'm almost positive he sat back like a CDM. People around here started talking like Bravo is one of the best CDM in the league after 2-3 good games there (I specifically remember arguing against the hype), then I think he got a red card or injury or something and was rotational for a while until Iraola took hold of the CDM spot.
Heres game 1: chicago mix and tmac at CM: (Diskerud highest rated player btw)
Game 2: weird box midfield with bravo next to Pirlo 343 -- Game 3 and 4 essentially same thing (bravo ended up next to Hernandez like a CB
Game 5: back to Mix and TMac next to Pirlo-- same for game 6
So looks like we tried to 2 CMs next to Pirlo, but it was Tmac and Mix. Didn't look too good in those early games either.
Game 2: weird box midfield with bravo next to Pirlo 343 -- Game 3 and 4 essentially same thing (bravo ended up next to Hernandez like a CB
Game 5: back to Mix and TMac next to Pirlo-- same for game 6
So looks like we tried to 2 CMs next to Pirlo, but it was Tmac and Mix. Didn't look too good in those early games either.
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Mix = the forums' Godwin's Law. Even after he is dropped I am sure he will continue to derail every thread - even the Game of Thrones thread.
[Insert character] was presumed to be talented in the Free Cities and completely undervalued by The Realm...subsequent derail into a Mix's Law.
Thanks for the deep dive.
I would argue that TMac definitely isn't the type of CM that would work next to Pirlo. One would think Mix is, but... let's not rehash that.
I still think it can work with two defensively-minded CMs with ability to go forward, rather than two offensively-minded CMs trying to remember to track back.
I think maybe you don't remember it because he was never in the right position. But he definitely wasn't going box to box very much.
eta: I see your data now. I'm sticking with the idea that he was at least supposed to be a dm most any time he played.
You might be joking but there's a good comparison to be made between Mix and Robb Stark
