That’s your prerogative and it’s perfectly acceptable. Has the downturn in tix sales really sent a message to the FO? They still inflate the attendance numbers.
Goes back to my question about definitions of success
That’s your prerogative and it’s perfectly acceptable. Has the downturn in tix sales really sent a message to the FO? They still inflate the attendance numbers.
Why don’t you ask your buddy what was discussed at the Monday office meeting.Goes back to my question about definitions of success
Why don’t you ask your buddy what was discussed at the Monday office meeting.
How does that help?I agree. Part of why I moved to SS this season.
I assume your little birdie has an idea of what the club considers success and also assume the FO has a weekly meeting on Monday to conduct an after-action review of the weekend’s match, attendance, etc.
Wasn’t the ability to load NYCFC with MCFC operational costs torpedoed a few years ago? If I remember correctly, they had tried to place all scouting etc under our umbrella and got nailed on it.As NYCFC likely exists mostly as a way for CFG to "massage" cash flow for FFP purposes, I'm not sure declining ticket sales would really even move the needle too much. Losing money is probably better for ownership than making money.
The cynic in me feels that there are far more ways that an oil monarchy can cook the books than regulators are able or willing to totally keep up with. That said, City is looking at a potential Champions League ban (lol)...Wasn’t the ability to load NYCFC with MCFC operational costs torpedoed a few years ago? If I remember correctly, they had tried to place all scouting etc under our umbrella and got nailed on it.
As NYCFC likely exists mostly as a way for CFG to "massage" cash flow for FFP purposes, I'm not sure declining ticket sales would really even move the needle too much. Losing money is probably better for ownership than making money.
Wasn’t the ability to load NYCFC with MCFC operational costs torpedoed a few years ago? If I remember correctly, they had tried to place all scouting etc under our umbrella and got nailed on it.
This is more likely. I'm just being grumpy.fan driven conspiracy theories tied up in the NYCFC is a farm team narrative
Yeah, if memory serves me, NYCFC was going to take on all kinds of costs from scouting to accounting to whatever the Fck MCFC could offload as operational costs. That way they would show more of a cash surplus that could be allocated towards players.I will preface this that I have very limited understanding of FFP but isn't it the opposite. I thought FFP was structured to prevent teams from spending considerably more than they were earning as a push back against the ultra rich owners. I thought the theory with NYCFC as it relates to FFP was that CFG would use profits from NYCFC to pad the amount they were allowed to spend at MCFC. Assuming that's the case and I'm likely misunderstanding this wouldn't massive loses by NYCFC essentially undermine that whole plan?
hmm, that makes sense to. So the scheme is about hiding expenses of MCFC at the other CFG clubs to boost MCFC profitability allowing them to spend more under FFP? FFP is confusing and seems like a very broken methodology for policing spending.
In all actuality is it likely the NYCFC venture has anything to do with FFP as it relates to MCFC or is it more likely an artifact of fan driven conspiracy theories tied up in the NYCFC is a farm team narrative?
I assume your little birdie has an idea of what the club considers success and also assume the FO has a weekly meeting on Monday to conduct an after-action review of the weekend’s match, attendance, etc.
It feels like where a lot of that stuff is happening or could happen, which is what I'm curious about.How does that help?
Is there honestly anyone here who can answer that for you? Where's the intern when we need them?!I was being serious in asking this question to the board last week. I would like to know how certain people associated with the Club define success.
It's gotta be like pretty disheartening working for a club that has no stated goals. I would imagine it would make it difficult to get into work each day if everyone was on a different page.QuigrNYCFC it was a question directed to the Club, not anyone here.
Pretty much this. Its not booing a specific player it's booing the collective. I can't sit there and applaud this team after a game say like the Orlando game where you're up 2-0 and shit the bed. They're grown men why would I cheer them after a performance like that, cheer and be like "don't worry team we'll get em next time." Hell nah youyou getting boo'd this isn't a bunch of children it's grown men and a FO who has lied and consistently ignored the fans who have been asking to put together a better functioning team. We lose Villa and literally nothing is done to replace him in star power or to make up for loss of productivity. In fact we let go of our only legit striker and still have no striker. It's just all the BS from front office honestly and then when the team plays like shit it's even more frustrating because it's a reflection of front office neglect. IPerhaps stop cheering for the team. Cheer for an individual if they do something apparent, but it’s ok to boo the team at halftime/end of game if they look atrocious. It removes the guilt you’re feeling Christopher Jee because it’s approaches the result on the field as a representation of the organization and not the individual players.
If front office neglect correlates to how well we do on the field, how come Orlando hasn't won the shield yet?Pretty much this. Its not booing a specific player it's booing the collective. I can't sit there and applaud this team after a game say like the Orlando game where you're up 2-0 and shit the bed. They're grown men why would I cheer them after a performance like that, cheer and be like "don't worry team we'll get em next time." Hell nah youyou getting boo'd this isn't a bunch of children it's grown men and a FO who has lied and consistently ignored the fans who have been asking to put together a better functioning team. We lose Villa and literally nothing is done to replace him in star power or to make up for loss of productivity. In fact we let go of our only legit striker and still have no striker. It's just all the BS from front office honestly and then when the team plays like shit it's even more frustrating because it's a reflection of front office neglect. I
Orlando has been a cluster Fck of a front office.If front office neglect correlates to how well we do on the field, how come Orlando hasn't won the shield yet?
Oh, have they? hmm I thought they were good to their fans... And they did try their best to make good moves last yearOrlando has been a cluster Fck of a front office.