The "state" that ISIS wants is called "earth" and they will not stop until they have it or are destroyed. It's time that the rational people in this world decide which it will be......Not to now say remember other people and other situations but in the same day ISIS also attacked Beirut -
I woke up to the facebook thing that announces you have friends in places where shit is going down and that they have or haven't checked in. Having friends in both places ... It's a scary world for sure.
Without opening a huge political can of worms, can anyone tell me why we can't just grant ISIS a state. I mean their tactics are deplorable, and that is a reason I understand for not recognizing them as a state, but in truth their big beef is that borders were drawn up willy-nilly in the 50s based on colonial lines and they want their own cultural area recognized.
I say fuck it - give them a state, more than half the world woudn't trade or deal with them and if they pull shit then you go to war with an actual country not an idea/ethos. Also running a country is damn hard.
Not to now say remember other people and other situations but in the same day ISIS also attacked Beirut -
I woke up to the facebook thing that announces you have friends in places where shit is going down and that they have or haven't checked in. Having friends in both places ... It's a scary world for sure.
Without opening a huge political can of worms, can anyone tell me why we can't just grant ISIS a state. I mean their tactics are deplorable, and that is a reason I understand for not recognizing them as a state, but in truth their big beef is that borders were drawn up willy-nilly in the 50s based on colonial lines and they want their own cultural area recognized.
I say fuck it - give them a state, more than half the world woudn't trade or deal with them and if they pull shit then you go to war with an actual country not an idea/ethos. Also running a country is damn hard.
Yes. Borders were drawn horribly.Sure I understand, hell even agree with both of you ... I'm in no way defending anything they have done. What I am saying though is that post WW1 when European Powers had to say goodbye to their empires many cultures and countries and whatever else were ripped up and had borders drawn all over them at the will of their departing imperialist colonizers. The agreement between the French British and Russians that carved up the region, the Sykes-Picot agreement (note 0 Arab countries, or names) is at the root of ISIS' beef.
So yeah we can't just give them New Mexico, or even allow them to set up a "state" in parts of Syria and Iraq (I would call it "Syriaq" at this point but in hindsight what has invading the region with military force gotten us? or gotten the USSR? or the French? or anyone? We (Westerners) have put up dictators and taken out popularly elected/chosen leaders all over the Middle East and South America with varying degrees of success.
That's why I say - give them a state already - because I don't see an end in the cycle of violence. Yes I'm aware that;s a very unpopular opinion and one i probably wouldn't support to this day due to the violence wrought by ISIS but I do feel like a beter solution could have been reached at many intervals before any of this had to happen.
What I am saying though is that post WW1 when European Powers had to say goodbye to their empires many cultures and countries and whatever else were ripped up and had borders drawn all over them at the will of their departing imperialist colonizers. The agreement between the French British and Russians that carved up the region, the Sykes-Picot agreement (note 0 Arab countries, or names) is at the root of ISIS' beef.