MLS - March 19 - Philadelphia (Home)

[JayH]

Would Yankee Stadium look better if it was just the first tier that was opened (plus the bleachers)?

Great minds (at least in your case), as I almost posted that as a footnote to my previous post. I think there are solutions to at least temporarily improving the YS layout related issues. One is to strategically consolidate where fans are seated. The Supporter Sections look, feel, sound incredible because (among other reasons) they are packed. The more sections that had that look and feel, the better. I would figure out our usual max - maybe 18K, and consolidate in some way, whether it's lower tier only, or whatever works best. There are other logistical issues such as longstanding STH locations, preferences for certain perspectives, etc. But I think it would help.

The other comment I was going to make was (fortunately) the players don't seem to be offended by the attendance numbers, and understand the challenges/limitations. They see the lively SS, they see how many supporters travel to away games across the country and the world, and also I am sure understand the dynamics of scattering supporters in such a large awkward space. I get the sense that their repeated references to having the support are genuine.

 

[Antidote P. Smiley]

If that means making people sit along the third base side instead of the 200 section on the first base side I say a definite not better. I do not see us getting out of this issue until we get a stadium. Do we get a significant amount of more fans in the seats if there was a fairly well known Mexican player on the squad?

 

[JayH]

If that means making people sit along the third base side instead of the 200 section on the first base side I say a definite not better. I do not see us getting out of this issue until we get a stadium. Do we get a significant amount of more fans in the seats if there was a fairly well known Mexican player on the squad?

Agree with this. You would have to avoid much of that side of the field (3rd base and near home)

 

[Seth]

I think there are solutions to at least temporarily improving the YS layout related issues. One is to strategically consolidate where fans are seated. The Supporter Sections look, feel, sound incredible because (among other reasons) they are packed. The more sections that had that look and feel, the better. I would figure out our usual max - maybe 18K, and consolidate in some way, whether it's lower tier only, or whatever works best. There are other logistical issues such as longstanding STH locations, preferences for certain perspectives, etc.

Yeah, that's going to potentially be a problem. I'm in 224 in the last row, so the cheap seats (relatively), but I'm right on the center line. Wouldn't want to be moved to the far corner of the 100s, say, or have to pay almost double for my same seats but one level down. Your idea's not a bad one but it would definitely open a can of worms for the club.

 

[JayH]

Yeah, that's going to potentially be a problem. I'm in 224 in the last row, so the cheap seats (relatively), but I'm right on the center line. Wouldn't want to be moved to the far corner of the 100s, say, or have to pay almost double for my same seats but one level down. Your idea's not a bad one but it would definitely open a can of worms for the club.

What about if STH would get some sort of grandfather-ed price lock if the move was a forced one from higher to lower? The other problem is that it would be unfair for those, especially the originals, who love their location/perspective and would be forced to move lower. There may be a trade off of the upside of a packed section to the downside of the change. I agree lots of worms. I wish there was a way to preserve some preferences, but pack sections better. This past weekend, it literally looked like some folks had a section to themselves.

 

[mgarbowski]

The worst look is created by the sections behind home plate. We don't sell them for a reason - the view for soccer sucks.

 

[Seth]

What about if STH would get some sort of grandfather-ed price lock if the move was a forced one from higher to lower? The other problem is that it would be unfair for those, especially the originals, who love their location/perspective and would be forced to move lower. There may be a trade off of the upside of a packed section to the downside of the change. I agree lots of worms. I wish there was a way to preserve some preferences, but pack sections better. This past weekend, it literally looked like some folks had a section to themselves.

Not at all disagreeing with any of what you're saying, just noting that there's lots of worm cans laying around. I just picked a random match, June 19th vs the Rapids, and my seats are maybe $52. It's $96 for the level below. If my price gets grandfathered in, which sounds fair to me, how is the person next to me who paid almost double what I did going to say to their rep?

Also, my row, heck the whole back half of 224, is basically me and the guy five seats over. Same for the two sections on either side. So yeah, pretty empty.

My main thought is assigned seats right up until game time and then just let everyone move down and sit wherever they want that's empty. But then we're back to where folks who paid hundreds for their seats aren't going to like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[JayH]

Not at all disagreeing with any of what you're saying, just noting that there's lots of worm cans laying around. I just picked a random match, June 19th vs the Rapids, and my seats are maybe $52. It's $96 for the level below. If my price gets grandfathered in, which sounds fair to me, how is the person next to me who paid almost double what I did going to say to their rep?

Also, my row, heck the whole back half of 224, is basically me and the guy five seats over. Same for the two sections on either side. So yeah, pretty empty.

My main thought is assigned seats right up until game time and then just let everyone move down and sit wherever they want that's empty. But then we're back to where folks who paid hundreds for their seats aren't going to like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not to mention the club's difficulty executing logistical plans with potential worm cans.

 

[moogoo]

i honestly didn't think the crowd was that bad. my section 213 seemed more full than usual.

I don't think there's any real solution right now as far as seating is concerned. We just have to wait until we get our own stadium. I think if the club wants to try and put butts in seats, maybe they suck up a year of losses to experiment with lower ticket prices to see if that will drive attendance. if it works, maybe they keep those prices. for STHs, we'd be given a credit for the difference. it is not exactly a cheap outing with the family the way prices are for seats and concessions.

I really think the forecast and covid (not so much fear of getting sick but the hit on a lot of people's wallets due to job loss, etc) had a lot to do with the diminished numbers. Plus it is spring break for a lot of people with kids and college age. so they were/are likely out of town.

 

[Seth]

Not to mention the club's difficulty executing logistical plans with potential worm cans.

I kinda want a NYC Worm Cans jersey now, ya know?

 

[QuigrNYCFC]

Observing the crowd that attended the Philly game, it was a pretty stark divide between families with kids and die hard adult fans. There did not appear to be many casual fans there.