But why does a kid have to decide at 15 whether it is pro soccer or bust? There is literally no difference between the instruction Scally receives and Haak receives right now. Scally is just getting paid.
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But why does a kid have to decide at 15 whether it is pro soccer or bust? There is literally no difference between the instruction Scally receives and Haak receives right now. Scally is just getting paid.
Would you feel differently if it was non sport related? How would you feel if Pricewaterhouse Coopers was making him an offer to leverage his future when he was only 15 years old?
I know it doesn't seem like it now, but places on the 30 man roster will be in short supply in the near future. Just take a look at NYRB, they have basically filled roster spots 21-30 (i.e. the spots for HGP), so to sign someone else they either need to offload or promote a another HGP to senior team status.
I also think it's a little idealistic to think these national team U17 kids are anything but full time professionals at this point.
The decision is in just as much interest for the player as it is for the club that is investing in them. As an example a kid i went to college with was getting calls from premier league teams his sophomore year. He decided not to take the offers because he wanted to finish school first. 2 years later he wasnt getting those calls anymore.
Back to the point of this thread:
Good to win but likely not enough for us to advance.
Good to win but likely not enough for us to advance.
Well we won by +1 based on the single tweet from the game, we don't know the actual score. It could have been 10-9...
i feel like the above discussion was on topic of the thread though.
Hold on - that's great for us and the team but it's not great for these children. This is a HUGE issue in England from what I understand butFalastur can speak to it maybe.
This isn't FIFA. These are still children with lives and developing psyches. They're not cattle.
Eh...yes and no. You're right that in Europe there have been a few voices over the years, both a couple of decades ago and as recent as this year, who have spoken up to say that football has a problem in that children lose their chances to study to gain professional qualifications by choosing to focus on their training, but those voices have been relatively few. It's not considered a HUGE issue - it's nowhere near as big of an issue as, say, whether the training methods we use for kids are too focused on strength and speed and not enough on technique.
For the most part, this has already been done to death. I would say one thing, though - I feel like the huge contrast in the way that "college" education works in the US compared to here means that it's very hard to compare your situation to ours. From what I understand, college degrees in the US are very broad and include a lot of "social studies" and so on, and are consequently favoured by employers there in white collar jobs because they are signs of a rounded individual. It's the complete opposite here, where degrees are incredibly focused, but the end result is that once you graduate there's huge competition for limited jobs which actually need that level of focus, and so most graduates end up doing the same office job for the same money as someone who left school early last year, and who will be in a better job than them by the time they reach the same age. In that situation, a footballer having a degree suddenly is a lot less important.
I could also make one last point, I guess - in the US, it seems most young kids who are going to make it to GA are the ones whose parents could afford to put them through pay-to-play academies. In Europe, most footballers come from lower-income homes, and tend to be the types of people who either would have left school as soon as they could, or would have got what qualifications they could from school and then gone straight into work. It's far more important here that kids in academies be made by their clubs to focus on doing well at school in the earlier years, rather than be given opportunities to go into higher education.
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Kind of a silly comparison considering you need a tax degree to work for PWC but yes I feel differently. You can't play soccer forever. You can have a 40 year career as a CPA
That shit is straight lies, man.
Universities lie their asses off about that stuff. And that’s after they massage the numbers every way possible.
Tbf, Jordan Morris sucks, too.
Btw, you guarantee to pay their college should they quit in the next 5 years or whatever. Issue resolved.
I’m very certain this is done with baseball players all the time. It’s why so many will come back and play football and not even take a scholly.
I believe MLS caps their college expenditures as part of the HGP deals. Big difference between a Cal State Fullerton education and one from Stanford.
A guy who signs with an MLS club at 15 isn’t just forgoing a chance to go to college for free, he is sacrificing the entire high school experience, probably including getting the education necessary to attend a good college. That’s not saying they shouldn’t do it, but it’s not a small step.
I think one thing that can really help is for the NCAA to get its head out of its ass and make college a place a kid can really grow his soccer game. Longer season, games under FIFA rules, etc.
I think one thing that can really help is for the NCAA to get its head out of its ass and make college a place a kid can really grow his soccer game. Longer season, games under FIFA rules, etc.
This is making an assumption that every single player who qualifies for Cal State Fullerton will also qualify for Stanford. As someone who follows college football recruiting almost religiously, I can tell you that Stanford can't even go after 80% of the recruits they'd like because of their academic standards, and they are obviously lessened an incredible amount for the football program being its biggest generator of revenue. Soccer maybe gets slightly lessened standards, but not much. Oakland is a football recruiting hot bed. It is Stanford's backyard. Without knowing for certain I'd say they have 1 or less athletes from Oakland on their roster.
Wrong, but too many people go to college when they should pursue a trade
No disputing this even as an Notre Dame alum who goes to multiple football games a year and has investing thousands of dollars in the program. Change is coming to college athletics. Think we'll see it first with basketball with football closely following.
Pretty much, but especially the sports part.
how can you say i'm wrong and then quickly proceed to explain how i am right?
