NYCFC Players Wanted Thread

You think NYCFC will be about a 3-4-2-1 in the future?? Interesting setup, never really thought about that kind of formation before, at least with NYCFC.

A tidbit to pick your brain, Midas Mulligan Midas Mulligan , who do you think is still on the team in 2 years, and still making an impact??
Without factoring into unknown contract lengths, I would say odds of still being on the team in 2019 are about as follows:

Matarrita - 50% - Wants to play in Europe, but isn't necessarily destroying the competition here
Chanot - 75% - He's here because his wife works at the UN. They might stay.
Callens - 75% - Should be a pretty solid MLSer for a number of years
Herrera - 33% - He's probably bigger than MLS
Ring - 70% - I don't buy the speculation he is going to bolt back to Europe first chance. He chose to come here, didn't he?
Wallace - 75% - As long as he's performing, I think we'll keep him around at reasonable salary levels
Harrison - 66% - I think there's a decent chance he sticks around as long as we hope he does, but that's not guaranteed
Villa - 95% - 2019 could be his farewell tour. Unless he drops off in a big way, he's got the DP spot as long as he wants it.
I won't go into as much detail on my forecasts, but I think Sbrylski is mostly right.

Herrera = another year and maybe through end of 2018 season.

Chanot = think he's a lifer and potential captain.

Callens = likely to be here a long time, too

Wallace = Yes. Had his dalliances elsewhere. He's home now - 4 hours from where he grew up, on decent money, playing great, no longer at an attractive age for buyers. I think allocation money will keep up with his presumed rising cost.

Harrison = Sbr has it about right on his 66%. I might be a little heavier lean towards staying, maybe 73.5%. Like Wallace on the $ front. If he stays here, I think he'd be eligible to represent the US in 2022. He'd still be only 25, and with that presumed resume, could go straight to PL/Bundes team without nearly the bullshit. Makes sense for him to enjoy his football and role for this club until then rather than toil in championship/relegation fodder clubs to what end?

Maxi = yes, unless we sell him, which I rate the odds of as fairly low over the next 2 year.. So he'll still be contributing either way.

Johnson = Will be here unless he shockingly takes over the US spot. So I think he'll be here. He's already 28. Free agency might come into play?

Villa = fully agree with Sbr

Brillant = no, too much money for a backup who has had too many big mistakes. He goes when we have a younger back-up option.

Lewis = think he'll be competing for a starter role or own it if Jack moves to the 10 role.

Ring = I think he'll stay, although slightly less sure than about Chanot.

Matarrita = total toss-up, possibly dependent on his 2018 WC performance given his rash of injuries. Club might be wise to postpone his sale until after that.

White, Allen = may be on the squad as cheap depth.

Shelton = I just don't see it at this point, but maybe as depth if Jack did move.[/S]
 
You think NYCFC will be about a 3-4-2-1 in the future?? Interesting setup, never really thought about that kind of formation before, at least with NYCFC.
Basically, I think we need to start trying to find a long-term striker solution and using that formation regularly would allow both New Striker and David Villa to both play at the same time, so we don't have valuable salary budget rotting on the bench.
 
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I think the key factor there is the salary cap. As long as players like Herrera, Harrison or Ring aren't given the DP status, and with that a big payrise, they will eventually want to play i.e. in England, where even in the second tier the salaries are much higher than in the MLS. They might enjoy their stay so far, but given the chance to get ten times more than what they get now would be tempting to anyone.
I actually addressed this in my answer.

I think the 3 guys you mention are wildly different. Ring has played in Europe. He makes $375k per year, about what he would anywhere else, excepting PL (ignoring that I don't think he's super-attractive to PL clubs, would he even be able to get a permit post-Brexit). If he took a paycut to come, I'd bet it was minimal. He also doesn't have a lot of sell-on potential given he's 26, nor does he have a worry of losing his place in the Finland.

Harrison has the most incentive (and options, since he's English) from a purely short-term financial perspective, but he isn't paid just peanuts and will be raised I'm sure. He also has the most non-monetary reasons (that likely turn into a long-term financial boon) to stay.

Herrera is a different animal entirely. 1 - he's on loan. 2 - He's one of the best u20 prospects ever in MLS. 3 - u20 WC accolades. Point is, he's gone when it's best for him and CFG, regardless of what we could offer him salary-wise.

Anyway, my point simply is that I don't think any singular analysis necessarily applies to these guys and certainly not equally.
 
I think the 3 guys you mention are wildly different. <cut> Anyway, my point simply is that I don't think any singular analysis necessarily applies to these guys and certainly not equally.

I agree, and I didn't mean to bunch together exactly these three players, but rather point out that there are players that the club would like to keep, but who might go elsewhere for a number of reasons.

I don't know Harrison's mind, but as a product of the ManU system, he's already been close to "big time" circumstances, and I'd be astonished if he didn't want to get back there. He also knows he could earn the same in a month there that he's making now for the whole season.

Herrera I can see playing for a major European team in the UEFA CL one day. Either ManCity or perhaps some Italian side, who knows. It would just be nice to see him progress even more at the NYCFC, and another loan season would be good for both parties.

Ring has, as you said, less sell-on potential, but I think he's the type of player who is only approaching his best years, and could do well for a lesser PL club still when around 30-32. But we can never be sure of anything in the game, and an injury or two can affect any player's future more than we know.
 
I think the key factor there is the salary cap. As long as players like Herrera, Harrison or Ring aren't given the DP status, and with that a big payrise, they will eventually want to play i.e. in England, where even in the second tier the salaries are much higher than in the MLS. They might enjoy their stay so far, but given the chance to get ten times more than what they get now would be tempting to anyone.

I don't think Herrera, Harrison and Ring can be lumped together. Herrera seems to have the higher upside of the three, is the youngest and already belongs to an elite club. He'll bolt relatively soon. Harrison is also young, has been playing under the European radar in MLS, so he may be "discovered" by a European league and leave too, but although I like him a lot, I don't know if he's good enough to get more than the 700K to 1.2 M that would keep him here with either TAM or lesser DP status. And Ring played in 2 Bundesliga already. If he could have gotten more in Europe, it would have been offered already.
 
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Basically, I think we need to start trying to find a long-term striker solution and using that formation regularly would allow both New Striker and David Villa to both play at the same time, so we don't have valuable salary budget rotting on the bench.

Or maybe we find another David Villa clone, a little bit younger, and feature him as a LW in 2019 and taking over CF in 2020. Like a then-28-year-old André Schürrle or something.

Or maybe we can trade Vieira to Arsenal for Alexis Sanchez.
 
And Ring played in 2 Bundesliga already. If he could have gotten more in Europe, it would have been offered already.

He was one and half seasons at Borussia Mönchengladbach. If memory serves me right, Ring said in some Finnish interview that there have been offers on table from some 1st Bundesliga teams, but he chose NYCFC because of Vieira. And obviously Kaiserslautern had turned down offers from England (at least Brentford has been mentioned).

But all in all, it looks like Ring is enjoying his game in New York, and maybe that's all that matters to him now - what else would we know...
 
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He was one and half seasons at Borussia Mönchengladbach. If memory serves me right, Ring said in some Finnish interview that there have been offers on table from some 1st Bundesliga teams, but he chose NYCFC because of Vieira. And obviously Kaiserslautern had turned down offers from England (at least Brentford has been mentioned).

But all in all, it looks like Ring is enjoying his game in New York, and maybe that's all that matters to him now - what else would we know...
He needs to stay a few more years so he can produce a second American child. Gotta get the pipeline in order for WC 2042.
 
I would be absolutely shocked if our next DP was someone who is a household name for soccer fans. Shocked.

That's fine for a Pirlo replacement. My concern is that we will eventually lose the best player MLS has ever seen. My understanding is that they won't replace him with another world class player.
 
Watching this New Zealand match and you know who would be a great MLS forward? Chris Wood from Leeds. Slow and immovable. DC United should buy him.
 
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