NYCFC Players Wanted Thread

I think you mean "moo," not "moot".


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The article I linked suggests that short teams might benefit from zonal as they don't have the personnel to effectively man mark the taller opponents.

Makes sense. Same concept in other sports as well. Compensate for mismatches (height in this case) by setting up the ability to double team/get help.
 
Zonal defending
I get the strong impression that the antipathy to zonal marking is more of an emotional / gut-based response by people who come from a Real Footballers Are Manly Men Who Fight Each Other Toe To Toe kind of old English sensibility. That viewpoint has always seen anything which elevates tactics above physical grit as "being soft" and echoes the anti-intellectual history of the English game.

In Grant Wahl's book Masters of Modern Soccer he discussed zonal marking a bit in the chapter about Manuel Neuer. They're watching tape together of Bayern defending a Dortmund corner kick, and Wahl writes:

"If you watch enough soccer games on television, you'll hear maddeningly regular complaint - especially by English commentators - that zonal marking... is a terrible way to organize your defense against set pieces, compared to man-to-man marking. This is patent nonsense. Bad zonal marking, which allows attackers to get a full running start and leap over the line of defenders, certainly looks awful on TV, as if the defense is actually trying to let the other team score. It's also easier to blame bad zonal marking on the system, rather than a particular player, as you can easily do with replays showing poor man-to-man marking.

The fact remains that well-executed zonal marking can be more effective than good man marking, which is why Bayern Munich goes zonal when defending corner kicks. (Bayern conceded zero goals on corners in 2016-2017 using zonal marking, while Atlético Madrid, another zonal team, gave up only one goal on corners.) The key, Neuer says isn't just the five Bayern defenders in a horizontal lines in the six-yard box, but also the three teammates in a similar line near the penalty spot, whose job it is to prevent Dortmund's attackers from getting a running start and leaping over the zone or finding spaces in between. "It's always a zone," he says. "The second line of three players wants to block them so they can't go fast into the zone between the lines."​
 
The problem with zonal marking is with MLS quality you more often than not get bad zonal marking.

RBNJ particularly feasts on bad zonal marking.
 
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I get the strong impression that the antipathy to zonal marking is more of an emotional / gut-based response by people who come from a Real Footballers Are Manly Men Who Fight Each Other Toe To Toe kind of old English sensibility. That viewpoint has always seen anything which elevates tactics above physical grit as "being soft" and echoes the anti-intellectual history of the English game.

In Grant Wahl's book Masters of Modern Soccer he discussed zonal marking a bit in the chapter about Manuel Neuer. They're watching tape together of Bayern defending a Dortmund corner kick, and Wahl writes:

"If you watch enough soccer games on television, you'll hear maddeningly regular complaint - especially by English commentators - that zonal marking... is a terrible way to organize your defense against set pieces, compared to man-to-man marking. This is patent nonsense. Bad zonal marking, which allows attackers to get a full running start and leap over the line of defenders, certainly looks awful on TV, as if the defense is actually trying to let the other team score. It's also easier to blame bad zonal marking on the system, rather than a particular player, as you can easily do with replays showing poor man-to-man marking.

The fact remains that well-executed zonal marking can be more effective than good man marking, which is why Bayern Munich goes zonal when defending corner kicks. (Bayern conceded zero goals on corners in 2016-2017 using zonal marking, while Atlético Madrid, another zonal team, gave up only one goal on corners.) The key, Neuer says isn't just the five Bayern defenders in a horizontal lines in the six-yard box, but also the three teammates in a similar line near the penalty spot, whose job it is to prevent Dortmund's attackers from getting a running start and leaping over the zone or finding spaces in between. "It's always a zone," he says. "The second line of three players wants to block them so they can't go fast into the zone between the lines."​
A team head and shoulders better, like Munich, can execute zonal marking correctly compared to the rest of the Bundesliga league that in all fairness is comprised of average clubs/players. That doesn’t necessarily mean zonal is better, just that the competition isn’t skilled enough to exploit it.

Zonal marking, no matter what the sport - football, basketball, soccer - can be exploited with zone-busting plays that overload an area. That’s not conjecture, but a fact, and it’s why in both Football and Basketball (with the exception of Syracuse) teams that play zone will mix it up with man-2-man to confuse the offense that has gone strictly to zone-busters.
 
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I guess Araos does kind of credit those reports. Usually, he tries to pass it off as his own reporting.
 
Except Araos' tweet is a perfect summary of this report

http://www.nycfcsoccernews.com/focu...rk-city-fc-for-mitrita-has-been-declined-1320

and this


So Araos isn't the one blowing shit out of his ass. At least he's shown an ability not to spew reflexive insults divorced from reality and all context whenever certain names are mentioned.
What I am curious about is the offer. Araos says the offer would need to be $7m and the other report says the previous offer was 6m euros, which translates to $6.85m
 
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I get the strong impression that the antipathy to zonal marking is more of an emotional / gut-based response by people who come from a Real Footballers Are Manly Men Who Fight Each Other Toe To Toe kind of old English sensibility. That viewpoint has always seen anything which elevates tactics above physical grit as "being soft" and echoes the anti-intellectual history of the English game.

In Grant Wahl's book Masters of Modern Soccer he discussed zonal marking a bit in the chapter about Manuel Neuer. They're watching tape together of Bayern defending a Dortmund corner kick, and Wahl writes:

"If you watch enough soccer games on television, you'll hear maddeningly regular complaint - especially by English commentators - that zonal marking... is a terrible way to organize your defense against set pieces, compared to man-to-man marking. This is patent nonsense. Bad zonal marking, which allows attackers to get a full running start and leap over the line of defenders, certainly looks awful on TV, as if the defense is actually trying to let the other team score. It's also easier to blame bad zonal marking on the system, rather than a particular player, as you can easily do with replays showing poor man-to-man marking.

The fact remains that well-executed zonal marking can be more effective than good man marking, which is why Bayern Munich goes zonal when defending corner kicks. (Bayern conceded zero goals on corners in 2016-2017 using zonal marking, while Atlético Madrid, another zonal team, gave up only one goal on corners.) The key, Neuer says isn't just the five Bayern defenders in a horizontal lines in the six-yard box, but also the three teammates in a similar line near the penalty spot, whose job it is to prevent Dortmund's attackers from getting a running start and leaping over the zone or finding spaces in between. "It's always a zone," he says. "The second line of three players wants to block them so they can't go fast into the zone between the lines."​
You've hit the nail on the head here.
 
At this point in the off-season, and with our cap space sitting there, I think Giuseppe Rossi on a reasonably low 1 or 2 year TAM wouldn't be a bad idea. He is not too old and a proven striker at the highest level, even if he's probably knee-less at this point.
 
At this point in the off-season, and with our cap space sitting there, I think Giuseppe Rossi on a reasonably low 1 or 2 year TAM wouldn't be a bad idea. He is not too old and a proven striker at the highest level, even if he's probably knee-less at this point.
I think Rossi’s thinking Premier League or bust. Perhaps if he has no takers today, he’ll lower his sights.

Now that we’re a top European feeder league, of course.
 
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