NYCFC Players Wanted Thread

[Calmness Personified]

Demi makes £3.3 million a year. No matter the mechanism, he would have to be a DP unless he was willing to take a $4 million dollar pay cut or if MLS does us a solid with a new mechanism

Couldn't Man City just pay 90% of his salary and NYCFC the other 10%? If they really want to get rid of him that is. It happens quite a lot in Europe, Man United were paying Nani's entire salary when he was on loan at Sporting Lisbon.

 

[BxLio91]

Couldn't Man City just pay 90% of his salary and NYCFC the other 10%? If they really want to get rid of him that is. It happens quite a lot in Europe, Man United were paying Nani's entire salary when he was on loan at Sporting Lisbon.

MLS has a rule created for us and NJ so that clubs can't loan players at a discount if they share owners.

 

[Kjbert]

Isn't that what we did with Mix though? He's making $750k and we paid it down with Allocation Money

No. I'm talking about Homegrowns exclusively. Reward teams for developing talent by offering a cap mechanism that allows them to keep the player (if they don't want to sell). Seattle could afford Yedlin's wages. But not within the cap structure.

 

[Kjbert]

If true, amazing that they think can work it under the Financial Fair Play rules..... That's a hell of a lot of jersey sales each year to offset a $1M+ per week salary.

Don't have to fit into FFP if the owners loan money to the club but cancel the debt.

 

[NYCFCP]

Demi makes £3.3 million a year. No matter the mechanism, he would have to be a DP unless he was willing to take a $4 million dollar pay cut or if MLS does us a solid with a new mechanism

Iraola had a 50K per week wage and has a base salary of $200,000 with us now (!?!!)
Demi is making around 60K/week if I heard correctly, Not much more that Iraola. Let's not be naive, he can come with the right moves on a non dp contract. It's the MLS, things happen.

Oh and this guy is 34 not a superstar 24 year old ...

 

[dannd23]

Iraola had a 50K per week wage and has a base salary of $200,000 with us now (!?!!)
Demi is making around 60K/week if I heard correctly, Not much more that Iraola. Let's not be naive, he can come with the right moves on a non dp contract. It's the MLS, things happen.

Oh and this guy is 34 not a superstar 24 year old ...

Demi is making closer to 100,000 a week if were talking dollars. I'm not saying it is impossible but it is highly unlikely he would come here for non-DP money if he can get that money elsewhere IMO.

 

[LionNYC]

MLS has a rule created for us and NJ so that clubs can't loan players at a discount if they share owners.

NYCFC and MCFC don't have the same owners. There's a complicated corporate structure of holding companies and tax shelters designed for such purposes. Loopholes galore.

 

[NYCFCP]

Demi is making closer to 100,000 a week if were talking dollars. I'm not saying it is impossible but it is highly unlikely he would come here for non-DP money if he can get that money elsewhere IMO.

I agree with that, but my point is that these players can make over the dp amount, without taking a dp spot..

 

[dannd23]

I agree with that, but my point is that these players can make over the dp amount, without taking a dp spot..

As long as Mix is here, not really

 

[Yankeedom]

Don't think it's been posted here yet, but rumors since (approximately) September state that Demichelis wants out of Manchester, with a move back to Argentina.

He probably would have been allowed to leave during this January's transfer window (considering he's out of contract come June 2016 anyway), but with the rash of injuries to City's CBs lately, he'll probably stay on until the end of the Premier league season.

Unless he really sees MLS as something he personally wants to try, regardless of his status/standing with City or his Argentinian club options, I highly doubt he ends up here.

 

[NYCFCP]

As long as Mix is here, not really

So how did we get Iraola? He was making more than 2.8 million euros and now has a $200,00 salary .... Anyway you disagree, but its the MLS and weird things happen when you have rules that are not transparent

 

[MagnusPax]

So how did we get Iraola? He was making more than 2.8 million euros and now has a $200,00 salary .... Anyway you disagree, but its the MLS and weird things happen when you have rules that are not transparent

He was a free agent and took a massive pay cut. It happens.

 

[The Toe]

There was a rumor about some gambling debts being part of the "deal", but who really knows.

 

[NYCFCP]

He was a free agent and took a massive pay cut. It happens.

My point is that there are many ways to get a Iraola/ Demi type player as a non dp.

This is what happens when we don't get any real news.....

 

[Gotham Gator]

With Demi going out of contract in June, it may be possible to renegotiate something to extend the deal and pay him under the cap.

Regarding Homegrown players, I know there is something that gives teams cap relief when they sign those guys, but I don't think it's indefinite - i.e. you get a few years of relief and then they count 100%. I am not completely sure about it, but that's my recollection. Plus, you get allocation money when you transfer their rights.

 

[Ulrich]

With Demi going out of contract in June, it may be possible to renegotiate something to extend the deal and pay him under the cap.

Regarding Homegrown players, I know there is something that gives teams cap relief when they sign those guys, but I don't think it's indefinite - i.e. you get a few years of relief and then they count 100%. I am not completely sure about it, but that's my recollection. Plus, you get allocation money when you transfer their rights.

I believe you're confusing Homegrown with Generation Adidas players. GA's eventually count towards the Cap after a few years of a grace period. My recollection is that Homegrowns never count towards the cap, although there may be a limit as to how many can claim this status on the roster at any one time. It's a mega reward for teams to invest in their academies.

 

[SoupInNYC]

I believe you're confusing Homegrown with Generation Adidas players. GA's eventually count towards the Cap after a few years of a grace period. My recollection is that Homegrowns never count towards the cap, although there may be a limit as to how many can claim this status on the roster at any one time. It's a mega reward for teams to invest in their academies.

According to wikipedia up to 2 players per year can be signed as homegrowns and not count against the cap. The links it cites there seem somewhat old, so this may have changed over the last couple of years. Haven't put forth any additional effort than this wikipedia page on tracking this down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_Player_Rule_(Major_League_Soccer)#cite_note-2

 

[dannd23]

Theoretically, if a player like Yedlin were to demand a DP salary, could the Sounders pay him millions as a HGP?

 

[Seth]

According to wikipedia up to 2 players per year can be signed as homegrowns and not count against the cap. The links it cites there seem somewhat old, so this may have changed over the last couple of years. Haven't put forth any additional effort than this wikipedia page on tracking this down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_Player_Rule_(Major_League_Soccer)#cite_note-2

I did a little poking around but couldn't find any really complete information. Most articles and sites say two homegrown players can be signed per year, but the MLS site says there's no limit.

(F) HOMEGROWN PLAYER SIGNINGS

A club may sign a player to his first professional contract without subjecting him to the MLS SuperDraft if the player has been a member of a club’s youth academy for at least one year and has met the necessary training and retention requirements. Players joining MLS through this mechanism are known as Homegrown Players.

There is no limit to the number of Homegrown Players a club may sign in a given year.​

That's all it says. It doesn't mention if any or all of those count against the cap though.

Source: http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/roster-rules-and-regulations

 

[Ulrich]

I did a little poking around but couldn't find any really complete information. Most articles and sites say two homegrown players can be signed per year, but the MLS site says there's no limit.

(F) HOMEGROWN PLAYER SIGNINGS

A club may sign a player to his first professional contract without subjecting him to the MLS SuperDraft if the player has been a member of a club’s youth academy for at least one year and has met the necessary training and retention requirements. Players joining MLS through this mechanism are known as Homegrown Players.

There is no limit to the number of Homegrown Players a club may sign in a given year.​

That's all it says. It doesn't mention if any or all of those count against the cap though.

Source: http://pressbox.mlssoccer.com/content/roster-rules-and-regulations

From Grantland, and I'd like to think they did more research than I'm doing at work: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-future-of-u-s-soccer-homegrown-players/

MLS provides a few key financial incentives for clubs to sign Homegrown Players. One is that HGPs don’t count against a team’s salary cap. Another is that if a club sells an HGP to a foreign team, it keeps 75 percent of the profit, rather than the customary two-thirds. MLS has a unique ownership structure: The league owns the teams, and team owners are shareholders in the league. So when a club sells a player — for instance,when the New York Red Bulls sold Jozy Altidore, who they signed in 2006 as a 16-year-old, to Spanish club Villareal in 2008 for roughly $10 million — the team keeps a portion of that money while the rest is distributed throughout the league. If Altidore had been an HGP, New York would have made almost $1 million more, which is not chump change for an MLS team. The league does require that that profit be reinvested into the team’s development via facilities, gear, youth academy, and so on.