ah gotcha. yeah not sure. I've been following MLS with ST's and never had the offer of that.
NYCFC Training Facility Thread
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If the team was going to host a friendly which they wanted spectators at, they would surely find a stadium to use, otherwise what's even the point? At a training facility with a couple of bleachers you'll be able to host what? 500 fans? 1,000? Maybe 2,000? There's two reasons behind teams' decisions to make friendlies open to viewers rather than behind closed doors and they are A) money and B) fan service. With a tiny ground like that you're going to make basically no money and you're only going to annoy the fans by allowing so few in, so it's a double shot-in-the-foot, surely?
I'm pretty sure that when teams host friendlies at their own training grounds, 99% of the time they are just behind closed doors.
What's the difference in what you're describing as "annoying the fans" and what the team already does with practices that are essentially closed but open to those that have spent their citizen points? I'm sure there are fans that currently would like to see those closed practices but can't because there weren't enough spots - and yet pitchforks and torches haven't been raised and lit.
My point is why limit the facility? There also aren't a hell of a lot of stadiums in the area with grass. We've already seen how we do on the shitty turf fields - fields which visiting teams probably wouldn't be interested in playing on even in a controlled scrimmage.
Unless the marked field is the YS replica, while combining both for the for the full 1.5 is the size of LA's pitch....
I really wanna be positive about this but I'm also mystified as to the design philosophy behind this + Melbourne City FC's training facility. The idea of attempting to replicate an aesthetic regardless of the buildings' architectural and geographical contexts is a little galling to me. The fact that the aesthetic recalls an inflatable swimming pool crossed with a strip mall gymnasium doesn't help either. It's somewhat inconsistent with Vieira's intention to develop a team that speaks to the character of the city it calls home.
The only plausible reason for me to be optimistic about this is that they may be skimping on this facility because they're eventually planning to build a stadium + training + academy complex to rival the one in Manchester
The only plausible reason for me to be optimistic about this is that they may be skimping on this facility because they're eventually planning to build a stadium + training + academy complex to rival the one in Manchester
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ktdNYCFC
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I wonder if acquiring this took resources away from the stadium search team. I'm happy to see they are building something, but no word on a stadium + an article now up on the MLS homepage with a picture of a blue double-wide trailer and one and a half fields in the back yard has triggered a lot of negative feedback / comments. I know the people who post on the MLS website are all trolls but I wonder if the club considered the image aspect of this. The first thing we build is a few miles away from the Tappan Zee and they are already calling for us to rename the club "New York Suburb Football Club." I just wish they at least got us a sss site first, but this kind of cements the idea that it could be 10+years away. We won't even be using this training facility till 2018. We're like the college graduate who comes home and can live with mom and dad, but shit you're gonna pay rent! Better find a friend's couch.
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I would doubt that this project took any resources away from the stadium initiative. And that's from a monetary & managerial standpoint - anybody worth a lick can handle multiple projects at once and our owner/benefactor prints money with each gas well.
As to the MLS commenters.... they're just insufferable curmudgeons that are insanely jealous of the new kids.
You're placing far too much stock in how rival fans are mocking us. In football there is no such thing as friendly competition - fans will hate and ridicule each other regardless of what happens. You see anyone here praising the Energy Drinks for having a modern stadium? I only see comments about how empty it is. You see anyone here praising Disney FC for giving Kreis a second chance? Etc.
No matter what we do there will be a way of turning it against us. We just need to accept that. Sacrifices were always going to have to be made to play in NYC and I think most here would agree that this is an acceptable one. The real problem occurs when the team's management starts trying to make decisions to minimise the grief they will receive online, because the moment teams start placing the opinions of mouth-shooting rival fans over the interests of their own supporters is the point at which they lose the sense of what it means to have a competitive identity.
I don't really see the gripe. The stadium and training facility were both items that were needed, and there was no reason to wait on one to happen before finalizing the other.
Regarding "New York Suburb Football Club", what the hell is wrong with training out there? If getting space in NYC for a stadium is difficult, then how the hell would anyone expect us to get a training facility within the city? It doesn't need public transportation access, because, fans don't need to commute there. It requires more space, which is insanely cheaper out there.
Those that actually have adverse opinions are this are either trolls or are completely oblivious to what a training facility is and requires.
ktdNYCFC
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Lol sorry guys, I totally agree with what you're saying - and I don't take anything the mls trolls say to heart - just saying this is out there for all to see, including the trolls' responses. I'd have to imagine new / potential MLS fans visit the MLS site, and they might not see the trolls for who they are. I personally didn't expect a front page mls article about this when I woke up this morning, but there it was.
anything related to its teams will be there....actually no scratch that any thing related to SUM is there....heck i see a bunch of mexican national team stuff there all the time.
still, you should know the team was hated the day it was announced so anything we do will always be trolled, even if we win the CCC we will be said to not be a "true" MLS team.
plus its new york.....the whole country dislikes new yorkers
Training facilities are built for club and player not league and fans.
As far as fans going there I'm sure they'll still have something like Purchase and it won't be any different. Stand on the sideline and wait for autographs, why else does anyone go?
As far as fans going there I'm sure they'll still have something like Purchase and it won't be any different. Stand on the sideline and wait for autographs, why else does anyone go?
Ahem...
We got a training facility. It was approved in July. It's now October. It is scheduled to be completed in "early 2018." That's just over a year. That is incredible! WE GOT A TRAINING FACILITY!
Do you know how foolish the City of New York is going to look trying to hold out on this club? This team pops up out of nowhere, gets competitive very quickly, builds relationships all over the city, becomes a fantastic ambassador for the game in the city and around the world and now has a deal done on a training facility...
We got a training facility. It was approved in July. It's now October. It is scheduled to be completed in "early 2018." That's just over a year. That is incredible! WE GOT A TRAINING FACILITY!
Do you know how foolish the City of New York is going to look trying to hold out on this club? This team pops up out of nowhere, gets competitive very quickly, builds relationships all over the city, becomes a fantastic ambassador for the game in the city and around the world and now has a deal done on a training facility...
I can get behind that.
I hate to differ on this, but I think there is a worthwhile concern here. Architecture doesn't bother me. Commute does.
For the highly paid players coming to NYC, they will likely want to live in NYC or maybe Westchester. Having to cross the Hudson is not a non-factor. Traffic around the Tappan Zee is often horrible.
And for the poorer players, does anyone know what the train commute is to Orangeburg?
I would also suspect that this closes the book on any discussion of Queens or Brooklyn for the stadium.
Highly paid players living in NYC, that means Manhattan, and that means certain neighborhoods. They go west, take the West Side Highway or Riverside Drive all the way up to the GWB then get in the right lane to take the Palisades parkway all the way up. With no traffic, depending on where you are in the city, it can take 30 minutes.
This. I do it regularly.
More than that, who cares? They are professional athletes. I just don't see how anyone would be so concerned with the commute that isn't on the roster.
BossNYC
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Really disappointed and concerned by what this training facility means...
There's a big push among MLS clubs to build incredible new training facilities that rival Europe and we get....a carbon copy of Melbourne City? What?
Tiny little Real Salt Lake is building this at the same time:
There's a big push among MLS clubs to build incredible new training facilities that rival Europe and we get....a carbon copy of Melbourne City? What?
Tiny little Real Salt Lake is building this at the same time: