Protected Player List Announced

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You can argue all day about whether Mix should be in the team or not (and I know there's some of you who'd love nothing more)

But can we all agree that his high school philosophizing makes him sound like a moody kid on AOL Instant Messenger?
No. He's a guy that knows what his contract says and hasn't made a non-company, derisive comment about his situation. There are plenty of other athletes that wouldn't have taken the high road and would have instead run their mouths/social media to disseminate their side of the standoff.
 
Our protected player list makes a good team:

----McNamara----Villa-----Shelton------
-----------Harrison-------Pirlo--------------
--------------------Diskerud-------------------
---Mataritta--Chanot--Brillant--Allen---
------------------Johnson--------------------

Lopez on the bench...
 
Our protected player list makes a good team:

----McNamara----Villa-----Shelton------
-----------Harrison-----Diskerud----------
--------------------Pirlo-----------------------
--Mataritta--Chanot--Brillant--Allen---
------------------Johnson--------------------

Lopez on the bench...
You may want to flip Pirlo and Mix but point well taken.
 
No. He's a guy that knows what his contract says and hasn't made a non-company, derisive comment about his situation. There are plenty of other athletes that wouldn't have taken the high road and would have instead run their mouths/social media to disseminate their side of the standoff.

Huh, his tweet comes off as passive-aggressive to me. I mean, the fact he's tweeting about it at all doesn't really strike me as "taking the high road" (I haven't seen any other players celebrate/commiserate their protected status).

But I should know better than to start another Mix argument!
 
Huh, his tweet comes off as passive-aggressive to me. I mean, the fact he's tweeting about it at all doesn't really strike me as "taking the high road" (I haven't seen any other players celebrate/commiserate their protected status).

But I should know better than to start another Mix argument!
passive aggressive celebration would have been tweeting about it before the list came out.

And you should know better but that didn't stop you from asking everybody to agree with you calling him a moody kid.
 
Our protected player list makes a good team:

----McNamara----Villa-----Shelton------
-----------Harrison-------Pirlo--------------
--------------------Diskerud-------------------
---Mataritta--Chanot--Brillant--Allen---
------------------Johnson--------------------

Lopez on the bench...
And Okoli on the bench for some offensive firepower.
 
passive aggressive celebration would have been tweeting about it before the list came out.

And you should know better but that didn't stop you from asking everybody to agree with you calling him a moody kid.

Well it's not the timing that bothers me, it's the fact he said it at all. Like I mentioned, I don't see any other players celebrating in public? Probably because it's a little disrespectful to the team-mates who weren't as fortunate. If I tweeted to celebrate keeping my (lucrative) job on the day my colleagues found out they might be on the move, I doubt I'd get too many co-workers praising me for my restraint, whatever the circumstances.

Haha but yeah, to your second point, I definitely regret it every time I underestimate the zeal of Mix's biggest fans on here.
 
Well it's not the timing that bothers me, it's the fact he said it at all. Like I mentioned, I don't see any other players celebrating in public? Probably because it's a little disrespectful to the team-mates who weren't as fortunate. If I tweeted to celebrate keeping my (lucrative) job on the day my colleagues found out they might be on the move, I doubt I'd get too many co-workers praising me for my restraint, whatever the circumstances.

Haha but yeah, to your second point, I definitely regret it every time I underestimate the zeal of Mix's biggest fans on here.
Haha you're calling people that weren't protected less fortunate?!? Nobody has moved yet and there's no guarantee that anybody will be selected. It'd be one thing if everybody not selected was getting terminated, but that's not the case. Sure, there's a chance that somebody will be on the move, but any of the players not protected will likely find more playing time at the new club than here, so to most, that's a cup half full way to look at it. But go ahead, make them out to be the victims and make Mix out to be the villain. Then again, you've never had anything but disdain for the guy so I'm not surprised you'd confuse zeal with logic.
 
Haha you're calling people that weren't protected less fortunate?!? Nobody has moved yet and there's no guarantee that anybody will be selected. It'd be one thing if everybody not selected was getting terminated, but that's not the case. Sure, there's a chance that somebody will be on the move, but any of the players not protected will likely find more playing time at the new club than here, so to most, that's a cup half full way to look at it. But go ahead, make them out to be the victims and make Mix out to be the villain. Then again, you've never had anything but disdain for the guy so I'm not surprised you'd confuse zeal with logic.

Uh, yeah? I would've thought any time your employer tells you that you didn't make the cut of people they definitely want to keep around the place, that goes down as unfortunate. Not to get too sentimental about it.

And calm yourself, I don't have "disdain" (so dramatic!) for Mix. I just think he's a bit of a dick on Twitter.
 
Uh, yeah? I would've thought any time your employer tells you that you didn't make the cut of people they definitely want to keep around the place, that goes down as unfortunate. Not to get too sentimental about it.

And calm yourself, I don't have "disdain" (so dramatic!) for Mix. I just think he's a bit of a dick on Twitter.
There's a whole forest around the tree you see. The team had 11 spots to use and its highly dramatic on your part to say that not getting one of those spots implies the team doesn't want to keep the players; every player not selected for the 11 either had an additional year on their contract or just had their option year picked up - that speaks volumes about whom the team wants to keep around. There were plenty of casualties last week with options not picked up or guys retiring. If Mix had tweeted at that time, then he'd be a dick on Twitter, but he didn't tweet then.... so he actually hasn't been passive aggressive and he hasn't been a dick. Care to try and label him a third time?
 
It makes sense, to be fair. Think about it. If you didn't have to protect players with a no-trade clause, you'd just sign absolutely everyone up to one and sit pretty in the knowledge that you could never ever lose a player from a draft.

Yeah, no. That makes no sense. Then you wouldn't be able to make any trades without the player's consent. A no-trade clause is a very valuable thing that you don't hand out willy nilly in the event of an expansion draft.

It makes sense because you've agreed not to move the player without his consent, which would be circumvented by exposing him in an expansion draft.
 
There's a whole forest around the tree you see. The team had 11 spots to use and its highly dramatic on your part to say that not getting one of those spots implies the team doesn't want to keep the players; every player not selected for the 11 either had an additional year on their contract or just had their option year picked up - that speaks volumes about whom the team wants to keep around. There were plenty of casualties last week with options not picked up or guys retiring. If Mix had tweeted at that time, then he'd be a dick on Twitter, but he didn't tweet then.... so he actually hasn't been passive aggressive and he hasn't been a dick. Care to try and label him a third time?

You can't really deny that being unprotected does mean that the team feels that losing you as a player wouldn't hurt the franchise. Of course no coach wants to lose his players but let's be real, being on that list means you are dispensable.

And I'm saying this fully aware that only 1 player from our team will get picked up.
 
You can't really deny that being unprotected does mean that the team feels that losing you as a player wouldn't hurt the franchise. Of course no coach wants to lose his players but let's be real, being on that list means you are dispensable.

And I'm saying this fully aware that only 1 player from our team will get picked up.
11 of 28 spots can be protected - that's only 39% of the team. Of those 11, nobody would ever question not keeping a DP/TAM player, so that is Villa, Pirlo, Chanot, Mix, Johnson (technically TAM after it being used for his acquisition). That leaves 6 of 28. Mataritta is a valuable commodity that will be transferred next year for a profit, so that then leaves 5of28 = 18%. There were really only 5 spots that the Front Office had to decide, and from those they were definitely choosing Cap Friendly producers in TMac & Khiry & RJ, and the workhorse CB Brillant. That left one spot out of 11. As has been debated on the Forums, there were pros/cons to choosing Lopez, mainly because of his Cap value and he served a particular role of DMid. It's really no slight to the other guys that weren't picked - there were probably pros to keeping all of them since they all were under contract, most getting options exercised, and that action alone means that the team values their service - they just didn't have more than 1 spot to logically play with.
 
11 of 28 spots can be protected - that's only 39% of the team. Of those 11, nobody would ever question not keeping a DP/TAM player, so that is Villa, Pirlo, Chanot, Mix, Johnson (technically TAM after it being used for his acquisition). That leaves 6 of 28. Mataritta is a valuable commodity that will be transferred next year for a profit, so that then leaves 5of28 = 18%. There were really only 5 spots that the Front Office had to decide, and from those they were definitely choosing Cap Friendly producers in TMac & Khiry & RJ, and the workhorse CB Brillant. That left one spot out of 11. As has been debated on the Forums, there were pros/cons to choosing Lopez, mainly because of his Cap value and he served a particular role of DMid. It's really no slight to the other guys that weren't picked - there were probably pros to keeping all of them since they all were under contract, most getting options exercised, and that action alone means that the team values their service - they just didn't have more than 1 spot to logically play with.
I think we're in agreement more than we disagree but you kind of proved my point. Your "Cap friendly producers" are clearly more valuable and less dispensable than the guys on the list. And maybe dispensable is a harsh word.
 
Totally agree. Also seems like the tweet of a person who knows they will never see the field in a City Blue Etihad shirt ever again.
Yes, without Mix-debating too much more, his tweets are clearly those of someone who won't play again and is instead engaged in a lingering stand-off.

"Protected, at last", we can surmise that the "at last" implies something loaded. What actively engaged player sends an "In your mind why did we lose" tweet moments after the final whistle of our biggest loss to date in Leg 1 against Toronto? Likewise, for the tweet praising Columbus' ability to finish "when textbook and confidence supersedes stress and ego" (or something like that) moments after we failed to finish our chances in a huge game against Dallas. I am sure that there are others that I am forgetting.

Yes, those tweets are open to interpretation, and yes, he has not yet gone off by more directly expressing his true feelings (subject to any non-disparagement or other contractual prohibitions, if any), but those tweets suggest someone who (rightfully or wrongfully) is not concerned with what his team, teammates or fans think.

It is too bad that either or both parties engaged in conduct triggering the irreconcilable differences. It is too bad that the team negotiated a contract leaving it handcuffed and Mix with the substantial leverage. And it is too bad that both parties likely have engaged in a spiteful stand-off ultimately unfavorable for both. It seems that everyone has lost here. It's time to cut the losses and find a resolution (hopefully in the next few days).
 
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