Salary Cap, MLS Rules And The Future, Oh My!

[sbrylski]

September salaries released: http://www.mlsplayers.org/images/September 15 2016 Salary Information - By Club.pdf

FWIW, Chanot making $383k. I think that's the only update we have on our roster.

 

[LionNYC]

September salaries released: http://www.mlsplayers.org/images/September 15 2016 Salary Information - By Club.pdf

FWIW, Chanot making $383k. I think that's the only update we have on our roster.

Someone on Reddit did the job of digging through. The base salaries:

Defenders:

• Maxime Chanot: $350,004
• Frederic Brillant: $260,000
• Jefferson Mena: $220,000
• Andoni Iraola: $200,004
• Jason Hernandez: $200,000
• Ronald Matarrita: $150,000
• Diego Martinez: $135,000
• R.J. Allen: $63,000
• Ethan White: $62,500
• Shannon Gomez: $51,500.04

Midfielders:

• Frank Lampard: $6,000,000
• Andrea Pirlo: $5,600,000
• Mix: $761,250
• Jack Harrison: $125,000
• Federico Bravo: $110,000
• Tommy Mac: $73,500
• Mehdi Ballouchy: $71,662.50
• Mikey Lopez: $51,500

Forwards:

• David Villa: $5,610,000
• Stiven Mendoza: $207,276
• Tony Taylor: $82,500
• Khiry Shelton: $77,000

Goalies:

• Josh Saunders: $150,000
• Andre Rawls: $62,508
• Eirik Johansen: $62,500

 

[Goodfella]

Defenders:
Frederic Brillant: $260,000
Jefferson Mena: $220,000
Jason Hernandez: $200,000
We should be able to get 2 REALLY good defenders for those 3 combined salaries

 

[Schwallacus]

Defenders:
Frederic Brillant: $260,000
Jefferson Mena: $220,000
Jason Hernandez: $200,000
We should be able to get 2 REALLY good defenders for those 3 combined salaries

Or just get rid of Mena & Hernandez and get one really good CB, pair him with Chanot and have Brillant as an incredibly able CB backup?? I'm not jumping off the Freddy Brillant train just yet. In my opinion, the Mena-Traina and Hernandez trains both left months ago though.

 

[Seven]

September salaries released: http://www.mlsplayers.org/images/September 15 2016 Salary Information - By Club.pdf

FWIW, Chanot making $383k. I think that's the only update we have on our roster.

Does that mean his cap hit is pro-rated at $191.5k, or is $383k the pro-rated amount?

 

[Taurus]

If there's room they may want to think about re-negotiating Mata and RJ upward.

 

[Angela Miller]

I'm not really sure what to make out of that MLS Player Union list. For example, consider the following players coming here mid-season:

• Pirlo at $2m
  
• Lampard at $6m
• Dos Santos at $4m
• Gerrard at $6.2m

Its been well documented that Pirlo's salary is well over $2m/year and I also doubt that LA is on the books for a combined $10.2m for Dos Santos and Gerrard for this year.

Andrea's cap is 2.5m ! so it's over but not in the well over stage, Not by far what he deserves by no means !! Do Not Believe any other amount that's said or written! It would be wrong!!

 

[Goodfella]

Or just get rid of Mena & Hernandez and get one really good CB, pair him with Chanot and have Brillant as an incredibly able CB backup?? I'm not jumping off the Freddy Brillant train just yet. In my opinion, the Mena-Traina and Hernandez trains both left months ago though.

I don't hate Brilliant, I just think $260K can be better spent

 

[EganSoccerWords]

I personally like Brillant. He had some rough patches when he first couple of games after his transfer, but he has been our best defender all season IMHO. The guy is constantly covering the deficiencies of the CB next to him and does alot of little things that are really hard to see unless you are focusing on our CB play. Not going to say that he is an MLS allstar, but he is in my opinion an above-average to good starting CB and is paid an appropriate wage for a starting CB.

Our roster building issue has to do with the fact that we are not yet 2 years post expansion. You can get cheap talent via Academy or the SuperDraft. We are still a couple years out from our first HGP signing and we have only two SuperDraft picks both of which were offensive players. Eventually, we will be able to get more value for our dollar, but we need the Academy pipeline first.

Even so, if you look at defenders who are not cheap HGPs or SuperDraft picks, no one really calls out to me in the same salary range that are really that much better than Brilliant I think the best is yet to come when we finally get Brilliant and Chanot back together.

 

[Gotham Gator]

It will be interesting to see who we protect in the expansion draft. It won't just be our Starting XI. Salary will be a big factor in all of that too.

 

[sbrylski]

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[Midas Mulligan]

I guess it makes sense to post this here. Matt Doyle actually doing some work stealing some good work and adding explanations to it.

Before DPs, the actual MLS budget per team this year is $5.95 million.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017...-stop-calling-it-salary-cap-its-salary-budget

 

[Ulrich]

I guess it makes sense to post this here. Matt Doyle actually doing some work stealing some good work and adding explanations to it.

Before DPs, the actual MLS budget per team this year is $5.95 million.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017...-stop-calling-it-salary-cap-its-salary-budget

And the #1 reason that guy is a twerp is because he can't get his numbers right. He shorted the TAM by $100k when he did his arithmetic.

Full amount is $6,048,000

 

[JGarrettLieb]

And the #1 reason that guy is a twerp is because he can't get his numbers right. He shorted the TAM by $100k when he did his arithmetic.

Full amount is $6,048,000

I'd bet dollars to pesos that he is one of those guys who calls himself an analyst but doesn't have great excel skills. If you do have good excel skills the first thing you do when confronted with a multi part equation, where you need to keep track of the component parts, is reach for excel. =sum(c2:c7) boom you have your answer.

Actually to be fair I probably reach for excel a little too quickly, but it just does so many things!

 

[mgarbowski]

Article on some roster moves by Orlando to manipulate cap issues that both clarifies and muddles some finer points of MLS rules.

 

[Ulrich]

Article on some roster moves by Orlando to manipulate cap issues that both clarifies and muddles some finer points of MLS rules.

Link?

 

[mgarbowski]

Link?

Oops

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/18/armchair-analyst-budget-management-heart-rochez-move

 

[Ulrich]

Oops

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/18/armchair-analyst-budget-management-heart-rochez-move

Ok, so how exactly did ATL get Rochez for less than a DP cap hit. That part was never explained.

It also doesn't make sense how Orlando's player can go from TAM -> DP -> future TAM with the flick of a switch. Didn't LA have to rewrite VanDamme's contract?

 

[EganSoccerWords]

Oops

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/18/armchair-analyst-budget-management-heart-rochez-move

The one thing that he didn't really mention in the article is that Orlando has to pay Rochez' full salary & cap hit minus the minimum salary Atlanta is paying him.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

Ok, so how exactly did ATL get Rochez for less than a DP cap hit. That part was never explained.

It also doesn't make sense how Orlando's player can go from TAM -> DP -> future TAM with the flick of a switch. Didn't LA have to rewrite VanDamme's contract?

Rochez was a young DP (200k cap hit). I think they changed some of the TAM rules around this year. Couple things are missing like the line about how someone needs to make under a million to use TAM.

I believe Barnes was technically DP for the Whitecaps. IDK if that played a role.