Stadium Discussion

[Fantazma]

Y’all going to hate this. But if it’s WP, it makes most sense to be a shared stadium with the Jets.

1. They just announced they are the UK ambassadors for the NFL already sharing a stadium with my beloved Spurs.

https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/new-york-jets-in-the-united-kingdom-nfl-international

2. They can get out of their MetLife deal in 2025. So the timing is kind of perfect. https://medium.com/@Ihernowitz/there-is-no-franchise-in-sports-like-the-new-york-jets-6bbf999529c0

3. They used to play at Shea, so it would be a return to their original fanbase.

I know you lose some atmosphere with a large NFL stadium, but it would play for large events like the WC. And if you can get that rolling pitch like at TH stadium, it would allow matches Sat/sun no problem.

the only issue is that the stadium wont be anywhere near atlanta / seattle. it will be more like chicago/ NE in terms of atmosphere. also its got to be grass but then it brings the issue of overuse etc. of course if they do it like spurs stadium with one level of field for football and other for soccer its fine.

 

[Jon]

Y’all going to hate this. But if it’s WP, it makes most sense to be a shared stadium with the Jets.

1. They just announced they are the UK ambassadors for the NFL already sharing a stadium with my beloved Spurs.

https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/new-york-jets-in-the-united-kingdom-nfl-international

2. They can get out of their MetLife deal in 2025. So the timing is kind of perfect. https://medium.com/@Ihernowitz/there-is-no-franchise-in-sports-like-the-new-york-jets-6bbf999529c0

3. They used to play at Shea, so it would be a return to their original fanbase.

I know you lose some atmosphere with a large NFL stadium, but it would play for large events like the WC. And if you can get that rolling pitch like at TH stadium, it would allow matches Sat/sun no problem.

Interesting idea, though I'm not sure how many people are interested in building another large stadium. It feels like we already have a glut of stadiums and arenas in the NY metro area.

I'm pretty opposed to sharing a stadium. We already share a stadium that seats 48k and the place is way too cavernous. I'd also be concerned that NFL would have priority over an MLS club in terms of: scheduling, turf over grass, and no safe-standing.

 

[Gotham Gator]

I think if we build in queens or Bronx, most everyone is happy.

If we somehow get it in Manhattan, the red bulls would be SO done and irrelevant that it would be hilarious.

I love the idea of playing the Hudson River Derby ON the Hudson River.

 

[DeGrozz]

Y’all going to hate this. But if it’s WP, it makes most sense to be a shared stadium with the Jets.

1. They just announced they are the UK ambassadors for the NFL already sharing a stadium with my beloved Spurs.

https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/new-york-jets-in-the-united-kingdom-nfl-international

2. They can get out of their MetLife deal in 2025. So the timing is kind of perfect. https://medium.com/@Ihernowitz/there-is-no-franchise-in-sports-like-the-new-york-jets-6bbf999529c0

3. They used to play at Shea, so it would be a return to their original fanbase.

I know you lose some atmosphere with a large NFL stadium, but it would play for large events like the WC. And if you can get that rolling pitch like at TH stadium, it would allow matches Sat/sun no problem.

That’d be such a gut punch. I’d rather play in Yankee Stadium and at least take advantage of the home field quirks.

 

[Kjbert]

Why would CFG sign up for that?

Not quite sure that’s a good move for the Jets either. The giants fanbase helps to subsidize their losses on MetLife.

 

[JayH]

Why would CFG sign up for that?

Agreed. A shared stadium doesn't fit CFG's ultimate purpose and end game for having our club exist.

 

[LionNYC]

Agreed. A shared stadium doesn't fit CFG's ultimate purpose and end game for having our club exist.

Does CFG buy the Jets?

 

[Higgs1]

Forget sharing a stadium, i want priority for scheduling & availability, can't imagine getting our games pumped because of jet's games or playoffs (right nm that will never happen)

 

[KevinJRogers]

Personally, I could live with a shared stadium as long as it was done right. I doubt the Johnsons have the juice to build a stadium on their own without public financing though, and the Bills have beaten them to it. It's going to be a lot more affordable for them to stay at MetLife.

A lot depends on Related and whether they can be bought out or persuaded to alter their plans (again), too. Our guys have dropped some hints about "acquiring parcels" and that sort of thing, so maybe it's already been done. It's not hard to see the South Bronx plan getting blended with what Related already has on the table for the Iron Triangle.

A nifty 27,000-seat soccer stadium would be a nice crown jewel with the right approach. Much better than a 65,000-seat behemoth for that location.

 

[Antidote P. Smiley]

Personally, I could live with a shared stadium as long as it was done right. I doubt the Johnsons have the juice to build a stadium on their own without public financing though, and the Bills have beaten them to it. It's going to be a lot more affordable for them to stay at MetLife.

A lot depends on Related and whether they can be bought out or persuaded to alter their plans (again), too. Our guys have dropped some hints about "acquiring parcels" and that sort of thing, so maybe it's already been done. It's not hard to see the South Bronx plan getting blended with what Related already has on the table for the Iron Triangle.

A nifty 27,000-seat soccer stadium would be a nice crown jewel with the right approach. Much better than a 65,000-seat behemoth for that location.

Although I live in Manhattan, I would much rather see a NYCFC Stadium in the Bronx. That said, I would also hope that there is a true effort to have it benefit the community.

 

[Shwafta]

Personally, I could live with a shared stadium as long as it was done right. I doubt the Johnsons have the juice to build a stadium on their own without public financing though, and the Bills have beaten them to it. It's going to be a lot more affordable for them to stay at MetLife.

A lot depends on Related and whether they can be bought out or persuaded to alter their plans (again), too. Our guys have dropped some hints about "acquiring parcels" and that sort of thing, so maybe it's already been done. It's not hard to see the South Bronx plan getting blended with what Related already has on the table for the Iron Triangle.

A nifty 27,000-seat soccer stadium would be a nice crown jewel with the right approach. Much better than a 65,000-seat behemoth for that location.

I think we could start at 30,000 and leave room for expansion. If demand skyrockets, a 10+year down the line expansion to 35 or 40 could be doable.

 

[Jon]

I think we could start at 30,000 and leave room for expansion. If demand skyrockets, a 10+year down the line expansion to 35 or 40 could be doable.

I think everything we've heard is this stadium is going to be sub-28k with the ability to expand at some point.

 

[Victors87]

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I remember seeing this picture from this site, and said awesome!
Maybe if they expanded up or did something like a Hearst Tower would have been amazing. Oh well. At least there will be hockey.

http://ore-design.com/project/kingsbridge/

Bringing this back up.....just saw that the ice rink project is no more......

https://bronxmatters.com/2021/12/17/after-8-years-of-nothingness-armory-ice-rink-plan-ditched/

 

[KevinJRogers]

I think we could start at 30,000 and leave room for expansion. If demand skyrockets, a 10+year down the line expansion to 35 or 40 could be doable.

As long as the stadium footprint stays the same Willets Point should be able to handle that. As it is anything going in there would require an infrastructure buildout (water and sewage, storm drains, etc.) so expansion should be factored in at the beginning.

That's one of the reasons the South Bronx is still preferred, by the way: all the subterranean infrastructure is already in place. Just might need some upgrades.

 

[Kjbert]

Smaller the better. Otherwise, the value of our tickets decreases

 

[ZYanksRule]

Smaller the better. Otherwise, the value of our tickets decreases

25,000 is the sweet spot, I think. In our first years at Yankee Stadium that's what we were averaging. Small enough that we will have it sold out almost every game, but big enough that we're not making it too tough to get tickets.

 

[Shwafta]

Smaller the better. Otherwise, the value of our tickets decreases

And then once demand increases, expand. I'd much prefer (demand willing, specifically.) a 30,000 or 35,000 filled stadium with lower ticket value for y'all than 25,000 with higher ticket value for y'all.

 

[Kjbert]

One caveat. Depending on where you put this thing, you could get away with 22,500 regular seats and 7,500 luxury box seats.

 

[Jon]

One caveat. Depending on where you put this thing, you could get away with 22,500 regular seats and 7,500 luxury box seats.

I hope this isn't the case. Obviously there's going to be a huge amount of luxury seats. I just hope they don't price average Joe's out of everything but the upper deck endline.

 

[moogoo]

I love the idea of playing the Hudson River Derby ON the Hudson River.

We'd just get the "they don't even play in the city, they play on the river." Jokes. It's better if one team has to cross the river to play the other.