Lol.
He didn't mean "on" literally, he meant if it was in the hudson yard location, which is "on the river"
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He didn't mean "on" literally, he meant if it was in the hudson yard location, which is "on the river"
lol. thought he was referring to the island on the river ideas. lol.
Mau Mau Island in my old neighborhood has plenty of room. Traffic nightmare though, and the closest subway station is on E. 16 St. , so everyone would probably have to come in on boats.
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Speaking of sharing. If we ever were to share a stadium it would probably be with a Women’s team or maybe like Gotham FC or something. I’m sure the stadium will also be multi purpose for concerts, etc.
orlando rents out their stadium during college football bowl season.
they can have the "etihad bowl" in December or even a NHL Winter classic in January.
Some feel excluded from NYCYC stadium talks
Here's what some members of the community are saying.
www.ny1.com
Some feel excluded from NYCYC stadium talks
Here's what some members of the community are saying.
I mean, what kind of leverage does this guy have in the community? Isn't he just president of a local business board that covers businesses along River Ave? I'm sure they'd welcome ANY development.
New York City: Home of people who feel entitled, and yet, deserve nothing
They are in big trouble wherever we put the stadium. Their “farm club” status, brand name problem, geographical isssue, and now our ascension to champs are big problems for them and RBNJ reddit is feeling it hard. Silverware has a bigger amplifying effect when you are on the right side of the river. For a hockey analogy, they have all the advantages of Ranger-like championship history combined with the Devils geography.
Oh i agree 100%, but Manhattan is seen as the "holy grail" of NYC centrality, and thus building a stadium there would make it more "legitimate" so to speak than the bronx or queens. You might get the "Yeah, they built it in NYC, but it's far from anyone" type of argument etc. In Manhattan, there would literally be no complaint I could think of in that regard.
That doesn't mean I think it's happening, though.
I guess my point is that we could stay at YS for 10 more years and if we are winning silverware and they continue on their current path, their relevancy is doomed and Borough nuances will be truly moot (as they always have been for me). We needed a Cup badly (more would help). They need one even more now. Also, to your last point, playing in the Boroughs hasn’t hurt the Mets and Yanks at all.
I see what you mean. Yeah, that's right. I just mean once we GET a stadium and they need to find something to scrutinize.
Mets and Yankees have been playing in the boroughs for their entire existence so I think it's different, but I just think it would have to do with what new excuse the red cows would try to find.
In the wise words of Rebecca Welton. “Fuck the haters”
The South Bronx stadium plan was roughly 25K expandable to 35K.
He's doing his job, and to be fair the community got royally screwed by the Yankees, so they are understandably skeptical and determined not to let it happen again.Some feel excluded from NYCYC stadium talks
Here's what some members of the community are saying.
Yankees Charity Neglects Stadium’s Neighbors (Published 2017)
A fund created by the Yankees as an olive branch to the communities around the stadium has disbursed millions. But a majority of that money has gone elsewhere.
New York Yankees: Bad for the Bronx, Bad for Baseball
In the not so distant past the New York Yankees embodied everything good about baseball and America. Slowly that faded. Yankee lore officially died on August 19, 2006—ground breaking day of New Yankee Stadium...
bleacherreport.com
Kids wait six years for ballfields taken over by Yankee Stadium - InvestigateWest
Macombs Dam Park under construction in December 2007during the building of the new Yankee Stadium.Flickr/Benjamin KabakIn the poorest Congressional district in the country, the nation’s wealthiest baseball franchise took away kids’ baseball fields.For six years.With National Park Service...
www.invw.org
Strong Feelings About Yankee Stadium Deal? Too Bad.
A closed door meeting -- prompted by deals like Atlantic Yards, Yankee Stadium and Columbia University's expansion -- is examining how developers deliver community benefits in New York.
citylimits.org
I've attended probably a little over a hundred meetings/calls for CB4, EDC, NYCIDA, and others and there's been dozens of times where it's been mentioned (most times unrelated to the potential development) that the new Yankee Stadium is poor the local community and that the Yankees are lousy neighbors.
Yankees Charity Neglects Stadium’s Neighbors (Published 2017)
A fund created by the Yankees as an olive branch to the communities around the stadium has disbursed millions. But a majority of that money has gone elsewhere.www.nytimes.com
New York Yankees: Bad for the Bronx, Bad for Baseball
In the not so distant past the New York Yankees embodied everything good about baseball and America. Slowly that faded. Yankee lore officially died on August 19, 2006—ground breaking day of New Yankee Stadium...
Kids wait six years for ballfields taken over by Yankee Stadium - InvestigateWest
Macombs Dam Park under construction in December 2007during the building of the new Yankee Stadium.Flickr/Benjamin KabakIn the poorest Congressional district in the country, the nation’s wealthiest baseball franchise took away kids’ baseball fields.For six years.With National Park Service...
Strong Feelings About Yankee Stadium Deal? Too Bad.
A closed door meeting -- prompted by deals like Atlantic Yards, Yankee Stadium and Columbia University's expansion -- is examining how developers deliver community benefits in New York.
I've attended probably a little over a hundred meetings/calls for CB4, EDC, NYCIDA, and others and there's been dozens of times where it's been mentioned (most times unrelated to the potential development) that the new Yankee Stadium is poor the local community and that the Yankees are lousy neighbors.
lol I just wrote a response off the top of my head but yours is so much better, with actual data. I'll post mine anyway, with a couple of updates from those articles:
The Yankees made all kinds of promises in exchange for getting massive tax breaks and taking away public parkland, and reneged or half-assed on all of them. They said they would replace all the parkland (they replaced some, looks like the rest will never be replaced); they set up a 28 million $ trust fund to invest in the community and distribute season tickets every year to "local youth" (this fund infamously became a slush fund for political favors and whatever else they needed it for and supposedly very little ever made its way to the community); getting the massive tax breaks and occupying all that land that in the community's view, if it were anything else but a stadium and empty parking garages, would be generating business, street life, and property tax income for the neighborhood.
As I've said elsewhere (on the NYCFC Facebook group): "I think what the Yankees really want is the revenue from the rest of the development plan (the rents, etc.) and to leverage the enhanced value of the real estate. Maybe utilize the stadium when we're not playing, too. Those are the real reasons for their reluctance to move to Willets Point."Yankees Charity Neglects Stadium’s Neighbors (Published 2017)
A fund created by the Yankees as an olive branch to the communities around the stadium has disbursed millions. But a majority of that money has gone elsewhere.
New York Yankees: Bad for the Bronx, Bad for Baseball
In the not so distant past the New York Yankees embodied everything good about baseball and America. Slowly that faded. Yankee lore officially died on August 19, 2006—ground breaking day of New Yankee Stadium...
Kids wait six years for ballfields taken over by Yankee Stadium - InvestigateWest
Macombs Dam Park under construction in December 2007during the building of the new Yankee Stadium.Flickr/Benjamin KabakIn the poorest Congressional district in the country, the nation’s wealthiest baseball franchise took away kids’ baseball fields.For six years.With National Park Service...
Strong Feelings About Yankee Stadium Deal? Too Bad.
A closed door meeting -- prompted by deals like Atlantic Yards, Yankee Stadium and Columbia University's expansion -- is examining how developers deliver community benefits in New York.
I've attended probably a little over a hundred meetings/calls for CB4, EDC, NYCIDA, and others and there's been dozens of times where it's been mentioned (most times unrelated to the potential development) that the new Yankee Stadium is poor the local community and that the Yankees are lousy neighbors.
They look at us as a supplemental revenue stream. We're not a priority for them (notwithstanding all the sunshine getting blown around between them and CFG). And as long as they look at us as a sideshow, and our stadium as just a side piece of a bigger plan, we're not going to get there with them as a dance partner. Either they change their view or Ferran Soriano bigfoots them and brings in his own team to get it done or CFG buys them out or has someone else do it (hello Steve Cohen), or we're stuck.
As to the surrounding community, I think the general view of the Yankees is they're just in the way. Every time community concerns come up the answer is always "but look at what we're doing for you" followed by a lot of numbers. Which is the hallmark of lousy business. No one does anything for anyone in business. You're either in a deal for mutual interest or someone is getting screwed (and it's always the guy getting done "for").
