Stadium Discussion

[adam]

I hope droves of people don't steal my "Take the Q50 to Main Street Flushing for some pork buns before the game and take the 7 from the end of the line, opposite of just about everyone else going to these games"

Pork Buns!!??? Main Street is like the kosher capital of the world!! Try Shimon's Pizza, or Burger Nosh

 

[Jon]

We've never been here before. If this was a normal city and the team hadn't joined MLS yet, we might not even notice all this. But we've been sniffing around like bloodhounds for 3 years, and have seen this coming for the last year or so. Now all the additional pieces are falling into place and it's much easier to put a puzzle together when you already have the picture (thanks Melinda!).

I already have 4 friends (at least 2 seats each) who will join on with me as STH if we get the Willets Point Stadium. People are getting hyped.

So what would be the next thing we should be looking for? Would it be some sort of partnership announced between City and the city?

 

[mgarbowski]

According to the basic 7-Line info page, express service is only during rush hour in the expected direction. But,

The MTA Is Your Ride to All Yankees and Mets Home Games

"The

train’s Mets-Willets Point station is right in front of Citi Field on Roosevelt Avenue near 126th Street. Fans can always take either the local or the express

to reach Mets-Willets Point. After weeknight and weekend games, New York City Transit provides special super-express

trains timed to depart after the last out. After leaving the game, these trains make only six stops – 61 St-Woodside, Queensboro Plaza, Court Square, 42 St-Grand Central, 5 Av-Bryant Park, and Times Square-42 St."

According to this, Mets games get special super-express trains back to Manhattan when games end. It also says fans can "always take either the local or express" to get to the game.

I'm pretty sure that for Mets games, and some other events, they run express service on weekends.

 

[adam]

So what would be the next thing we should be looking for? Would it be some sort of partnership announced between City and the city?

No idea, I guess we'll know when we see it.

Things we've seen so far:
1. Related & CFG already partnered on Belmont Bid.
2. CFG has build all those soccer fields around NYC

Things we know to expect next:
1. In the crains article you posted, it looks like they will have a committee to determine the best use for the 17 acres. That will be interesting.

 

[mgarbowski]

1. In the crains article you posted, it looks like they will have a committee to determine the best use for the 17 acres. That will be interesting.

Katz and Moya are the co-chairs of this commission. They're talking the goo goo government language of dialogue and input, but if they want this done and they're competent, it will get done.

 

[Kjbert]

I hope droves of people don't steal my "Take the Q50 to Main Street Flushing for some pork buns before the game and take the 7 from the end of the line, opposite of just about everyone else going to these games"

Mrs. Toe getting out the car in Flushing

 

[Falastur]

"Belmont Park is a major thoroughbred horseracing facility first opened in 1905 and redeveloped from 1964-1968. The subject of this RFP is comprised of two parcels totaling approximately 36 acres, both currently vacant and underutilized parking lots. Site A contains a total of approximately 8 acres, bordered on the south by Hempstead Turnpike and adjacent to the Cross Island Parkway. Site B contains a total of approximately 28 acres and is located south of the Hempstead Turnpike. Respondents may also propose an alternative, which includes the sites and land adjacent to Site A, north of Hempstead Turnpike. Additional land adjacent to Site A included in respondents’ proposals shall total no more than 7 acres for a total of 15 acres including Site A. Respondents who wish to submit an alternative development proposal must also submit a proposal for the Sites."

Bolded bit gets it to 43, FWIW. And we've now both spend more time on this than it merited.

And that's what I get for skimming text and then feeling like I knew what I was talking about. Good catch.

 

[CP_Scouse]

I wonder if a proper bar scene will pop up as a result of this. Soccer stadium. 1,000 units or so. Who knows. Just saying if someone here wants to look into that i will happily work haha

 

[kuyakew]

I'm sure a few proper bars will pop up around the stadium to handle residents and gamed people from both Mets and NYCFC games. That's a lot of dough.

Would be great to go to the Queens Night Market or Flushing before/after games. My mouth is watering bro.

 

[Kjbert]

It will probably be some chain like McFadden's or Fado

 

[mgarbowski]

With respect to neighborhood opposition and community input, there probably is no better location in the city to build a major event space without getting derailed.


To the East West you have Citi field and parking lots.
To the north is a highway and Flushing Bay.
To the East is Flushing, but separated by both a highway and Flushing Creek.
To the south is the subway line, railroad line, a stretch of Roosevelt Avenue with no buildings on it, and beyond that park land.
I doubt there is a spot in the city this well served by both subway and highways that has literally no residential or commercial existing residents who would care to complain.

As others have noted, people will raise objections for unrelated reasons. And some will say we should just make it all housing. But there really is no cause for community opposition because of NIMBYism, and that is kind of extraordinary.

EDIT: Fixed East/West re Citi Field per adam.

 

[adam]

With respect to neighborhood opposition and community input, there probably is no better location in the city to build a major event space without getting derailed.
View attachment 8191

To the East you have Citi field and parking lots.
To the north is a highway and Flushing Bay.
To the East is Flushing, but separated by both a highway and Flushing Creek.
To the south is the subway line, railroad line, a stretch of Roosevelt Avenue with no buildings on it, and beyond that park land.
I doubt there is a spot in the city this well served by both subway and highways that has literally no residential or commercial existing residents who would care to complain.

As others have noted, people will raise objections for unrelated reasons. And some will say we should just make it all housing. But there really is no cause for community opposition because of NIMBYism, and that is kind of extraordinary.

Citi Field is to the west. I only mention because i know it will bug the hell out of you if you notice great points!

 

[mgarbowski]

Citi Field is to the west. I only mention because i know it will bug the hell out of you if you notice great points!

Fixed. Thanks.

 

[Kjbert]

With respect to neighborhood opposition and community input, there probably is no better location in the city to build a major event space without getting derailed.
View attachment 8191

To the East West you have Citi field and parking lots.
To the north is a highway and Flushing Bay.
To the East is Flushing, but separated by both a highway and Flushing Creek.
To the south is the subway line, railroad line, a stretch of Roosevelt Avenue with no buildings on it, and beyond that park land.
I doubt there is a spot in the city this well served by both subway and highways that has literally no residential or commercial existing residents who would care to complain.

As others have noted, people will raise objections for unrelated reasons. And some will say we should just make it all housing. But there really is no cause for community opposition because of NIMBYism, and that is kind of extraordinary.

Some dummy in the Crane's comments section asked why they were building a soccer stadium, who would play there and why they wouldn't first take care of the homeless.

Mind you, this comment was in response to an article about a soccer stadium, naming NYCFC as the tenant, and matching the development of affordable housing to a soccer stadium.

Some people are straight up DUMB

 

[sundance]

With respect to neighborhood opposition and community input, there probably is no better location in the city to build a major event space without getting derailed.
View attachment 8191

To the East West you have Citi field and parking lots.
To the north is a highway and Flushing Bay.
To the East is Flushing, but separated by both a highway and Flushing Creek.
To the south is the subway line, railroad line, a stretch of Roosevelt Avenue with no buildings on it, and beyond that park land.
I doubt there is a spot in the city this well served by both subway and highways that has literally no residential or commercial existing residents who would care to complain.

As others have noted, people will raise objections for unrelated reasons. And some will say we should just make it all housing. But there really is no cause for community opposition because of NIMBYism, and that is kind of extraordinary.

I’ve been hoping for a late GAL revival, but this looks like as straight a shot as we get. Amazing.

 

[Kjbert]

The only complaint is that you won't have a view of the city

 

[adam]

Some dummy in the Crane's comments section asked why they were building a soccer stadium, who would play there and why they wouldn't first take care of the homeless.

Mind you, this comment was in response to an article about a soccer stadium, naming NYCFC as the tenant, and matching the development of affordable housing to a soccer stadium.

Some people are straight up DUMB

Technically NYCFC are homeless.

 

[Kjbert]

Technically NYCFC are homeless.

 

[COLINMOUTH]

Some dummy in the Crane's comments section asked why they were building a soccer stadium, who would play there and why they wouldn't first take care of the homeless.

Mind you, this comment was in response to an article about a soccer stadium, naming NYCFC as the tenant, and matching the development of affordable housing to a soccer stadium.

Some people are straight up DUMB

hahah I wanted to comment and send a link explaining the extensive affordable housing for HOMELESS people, but didn't feel like registering to the site. I was bummed.

 

[Mkdaman1818]

According to the basic 7-Line info page, express service is only during rush hour in the expected direction. But,

The MTA Is Your Ride to All Yankees and Mets Home Games

"The

train’s Mets-Willets Point station is right in front of Citi Field on Roosevelt Avenue near 126th Street. Fans can always take either the local or the express

to reach Mets-Willets Point. After weeknight and weekend games, New York City Transit provides special super-express

trains timed to depart after the last out. After leaving the game, these trains make only six stops – 61 St-Woodside, Queensboro Plaza, Court Square, 42 St-Grand Central, 5 Av-Bryant Park, and Times Square-42 St."

According to this, Mets games get special super-express trains back to Manhattan when games end. It also says fans can "always take either the local or express" to get to the game.

I'm pretty sure that for Mets games, and some other events, they run express service on weekends.

My complaint was that the 7 trains before met games were always local and seemed too infrequent. However, if we got super express trains to and from Nycfc matches (only 17 a year!) then it’s a no brainer. Hopefully we can schedule smartly so we don’t conflict with any mets weekend games, otherwise the trains would be a bit of a clusterfck.

And yes, I’m talking about this as if it’s a done deal.