I was actually expecting a rotation of about 45 degrees clockwise on the overlay you made there, so the wall is flush with the "clipped corner" you made there
Stadium Discussion
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It is interesting the price tag for the stadium, I wonder if there is some remediation costs. The Costs per seat is similar to Metlife stadium, which is interesting as the costs to add a third tier is what drives up costs (per Amy Trask, Ex Raider CEO, she was discussing the costs on the radio a few years ago).
Yankee Stadium:
Cost Per Seat: $27,649 Cost: $1.5B Capacity: 54,251 Built 2009
Citi Field
Cost Per Seat: $21,531 Cost: $900M Capacity: 41,800 Built 2009
Metlife Stadium
Cost Per Seat: $19,381 Cost: $1.6B Capacity: 82,556 Built 2010
Red Bull Arena
Cost Per Seat: $8,800 Cost: $220M Capacity: 25,000 Built 2006
NYCFC
Cost Per Seat: $17,307 Cost: 450M Capacity: 26,000 Built 2022
If I recall, there was a price hike in steel costs when Metlife was being built.
Yankee Stadium:
Cost Per Seat: $27,649 Cost: $1.5B Capacity: 54,251 Built 2009
Citi Field
Cost Per Seat: $21,531 Cost: $900M Capacity: 41,800 Built 2009
Metlife Stadium
Cost Per Seat: $19,381 Cost: $1.6B Capacity: 82,556 Built 2010
Red Bull Arena
Cost Per Seat: $8,800 Cost: $220M Capacity: 25,000 Built 2006
NYCFC
Cost Per Seat: $17,307 Cost: 450M Capacity: 26,000 Built 2022
If I recall, there was a price hike in steel costs when Metlife was being built.
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http://bronx.news12.com/story/38634964/report-plan-for-new-nycfc-stadium-back-on-the-table
http://bronx.news12.com/story/38634964/report-plan-for-new-nycfc-stadium-back-on-the-table
If they could make it work without sacrificing acoustics, that could be cool. Otherwise, kind of a massive bummer.
That’s totally possible. Think: LAFC new stadium
I do wonder about how they'll integrate the YS seating charts into their new stadium to give everyone a roughly similar spot we have now. Single stands like the Rose Bowl?
I am sure it’s just going to be a jump ball. How else can they do it?
Where you sit now has nothing to do with where you sit in the eventual stadium. Seat selection will start fresh based on original deposit and purchase dates.
Minus how many STH have since dropped their place in line.
I think the fairest way might be numerical order by category. In other words, The seat-category-1 folks would get to choose in order of when they originally signed up, then the people in seat category 2 in signup order, etc. That way you'd get the most people into the most similar seats even with differently shaped stadiums. I think the actual way they'll do it is to go in numerical order though as they can easily spit that out of the membership database without having to have anyone do any programming.
I think my current seats are completely an oddity of the fact that we play in a baseball stadium. I have category 4 seats that are somehow almost exactly on the centerline (section 224). I think the only reason they're not category 3 seats is that my section and the next one over (223) are the two farthest away from the pitch, and also because the one to my right used to be the away supporters as well (which they moved a couple of years ago). I'm mildly concerned that I'll end up way up in one of the top corner sections in the mythical new stadium though as I can't imagine they'd "accidentally" have some of the less expensive seats right on the centerline they way it ended up in Yankee Stadium.
Not sure that’s fair at all, since we were told at the beginning it would be by membershp/deposit date. I chose cat 4 to be first row centerline behind the bench (before they invented pitchside in season 2). If I knew seating category would have an affect I would have chosen differently. And that’s why I don’t mind downgrading to SS next season, because fuck them if I can’t sell my seats anymore.
I totally understand this perspective. As a counter example, what about someone who's in the front row of 225 directly on the centerline but didn't get that seat until year 2 after getting a random 9-pack plan in year 1? They have some of the best seats in the house, and they're "only" category 3 pricing. Not sure it's fair to stick them up in the equivalent of section 216, say, all the way up in the corner in the new stadium, just because they didn't sign up the same day David Villa did. What's the equitable way to deal with these types of situations? How do you balance the weighting between place in line vs. current seating?
There is no unfairness to the current section 225 person. The rules were set out 4-5 years ago. Promises were made to the people who signed up early. People acted accordingly in reliance on those representations. When you have promises plus reliance and breach, that's fraud.
Sure, back in 2013-14 the club could have devised a complicated system that involved a 3D calculus of seniority and YS seating to assign SSS seats for a stadium with no location or design. But they didn't because they're not insane, and people relied on what they did.
Plus how would you handle someone who changed seats every season, especially as we don't know when the SSS will happen? Stick that person with some vague corollary in a SSS with a completely different configuration based on wherever they happen to be when the music stops? That's fair?
Why is this even a debate?
Also, important to note that they are changing their tune regarding how selection will work. I talked to Dan Steeves for more than a half hour just after we he hired Dome, and he was adamant that the number of tickets you’ll be able to select at your initial queue spot will be dictated by how many tickets you currently hold.
Frankly, I was always doubtful of them doing it any other way, and I agree with that plan. It’s the most fair way, by far.
I presume it’s a combination of grasping to hold onto STH numbers and a new stadium announcement becoming more real.
In any event, I thought it was worth sharing now that something might be close and renewals are sort of nearing.
Interesting to see how that cuts, right? If you’re a possible STH reducer, you are left with only two rational choices, IMO. You move to cheap seats and maintain your optimal count (# you want long-term) or you drop all of your tickets entirely. If you just hold onto a single one to “hold your spot”, you’ll just be taking a gamble that you can backfill the adjacent seats you want after 10-15k others choose.
And let’s be honest, our STH numbers will jump like crazy as soon as we have an approved final plan. So it’s not an insignificant risk to play that game.
Yeah, look at me (and you), we had Batter’s Eye, the vaunted “best soccer seats in the house”. They weren’t available until year 2, and then they were dropped entirely due to reconfiguration.
We got pooped on because we gave up where we would have selected and lost out to far better seating choices to people with far lower priority.
My philosophy is if I got screwed by something, it’s fair for everyone else to suffer the same screwing.
And let’s be clear, we did get screwed by that, but I don’t know what else you can do. You can’t re-run the whole queue every year. That would just screw more people.
Should have been clearer. Jump ball in terms of where you sit. They will certainly take into account who signed up first. Mariano Rivera will get to sit where he likes.
Not a debate, just wondering. And I thought about mentioning the every-season-seat-changer but purposely left that out as it utterly complicates things. And just for fun I went through the beginning of the ticket buying process as far as I could go before having to make a Ticketmaster account and there was no mention of or link to anything about any new stadium place-in-line statements of course. And hey, there's four nice seats in 225 in the second row! (No mention that they're behind the TV cameras, alas.) My point is that you could buy a great seat today and sit there for four or five years until the new stadium arrives (super optimistic?) and then find yourself being offered upper corner seats because you're last in line. Not sure that's completely fair, and that's all I'm saying.
I got a single season ticket partway into season 1 in section 226, then a few months later picked up two season tickets in 225. Between S1 and S2 I dropped the 226 ticket and have kept the 225s ever since then.
I presume my place in the SSS queue will be based on my current holding of two 225 tickets and the date I bought them. While my 226 ticket would theoretically bump me earlier in the queue, it would only be for one ticket and as has already been discussed that becomes a problem if I want my current number of tickets.
I presume my place in the SSS queue will be based on my current holding of two 225 tickets and the date I bought them. While my 226 ticket would theoretically bump me earlier in the queue, it would only be for one ticket and as has already been discussed that becomes a problem if I want my current number of tickets.
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