Araos has discredited this on Twitter. Deal off. Stadium gone.
Stadium Discussion
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This seems more an “I don’t know anything and it’s not public” than a “this deal died.”
Is there a way to mute the word “Araos” on this site?
At this point they just have to finish sorting out what approvals they need from whom, given the particulars of the site. The regulatory process is byzantine. There are also significant engineering challenges, but those at least are straightforward.
I'll use a sharpie to paint the tennis balls on the tips of my walker's legs light blue.
Unsure as in you have reason to doubt, or just lack info to have a meaningful opinion?
I am curious about the GAL site, all I had heard to this point was movement on the Harlem Yards site. Are we sure that is dead in the water?
edit: Thanks sundance, guess it might be, although plans do change sometimes
edit: Thanks sundance, guess it might be, although plans do change sometimes
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“ORANGEBURG, New York -- New York City FC president Jon Patricof says that a tract of land at Harlem River Yards is not an area of focus for a proposed stadium site.”
http://www.espn.com/soccer/major-le...-yards-as-site-for-proposed-stadium-president
No reason to doubt but no reason to trust either. I've seen him posting on the page here and there but i dont know him personally or who/what his sources are. Basically the latter of your 2 choices.
I was wondering about that earlier last week. Some “announcement” (if we call the rumors that) mentioned within a mile south ofYankees stadium. GAL is a quarter mile at best. Harlem Yards is slightly more than a mile - seems like a real possibility as whomever said such was possibly/probably using a typical-world rounding down as the exact distance didn’t matter to their content delivery.
As a separate note, of the double-take recognition variety, I was in a meeting this week and in the middle of an explanation of something by another party at the mtg, they mentioned GAL elevator co. No, it had zero to do with a sale of their building/site. No, it wasn’t a soccer related mtg. It was purely coincidental (yes, shockingly was elevator related), but the party did confirm that the GAL they were referring to was the Bronx elevator company.
Yes, but "just" doesn't quite cover it.
The train station has four tracks at ground level and two platforms. Not sure those can be lowered to be underground though as we're right on the water and not sure where the water table is. Not to mention future flooding concerns. There's also quite a number of highway ramps on multiple levels as well. Essentially the stadium might need to be on a platform that's six stories up in the air if the ramps can't be moved. In addition, it's not a large site either. An Avaya-sized stadium would fill the site, and a Red Bull Arena-sized one would overrun it, and that's only the stadium; no plazas, no parking, no room anywhere outside the building.
So sure, it's possible to shoehorn a stadium into the space, but there are challenges.
Would be very NYC to build up when you can't build out thoYes, but "just" doesn't quite cover it.
The train station has four tracks at ground level and two platforms. Not sure those can be lowered to be underground though as we're right on the water and not sure where the water table is. Not to mention future flooding concerns. There's also quite a number of highway ramps on multiple levels as well. Essentially the stadium might need to be on a platform that's six stories up in the air if the ramps can't be moved. In addition, it's not a large site either. An Avaya-sized stadium would fill the site, and a Red Bull Arena-sized one would overrun it, and that's only the stadium; no plazas, no parking, no room anywhere outside the building.
So sure, it's possible to shoehorn a stadium into the space, but there are challenges.
I always just assumed if we were at this location that the Cromwell Ave. ramp would be taken out, the train would be diverted a bit. Look at Macombs Dam Park. That's a full-sized soccer pitch. That, plus the walls/seats around it? Would easily fit, no need for any plazas or things like that bc we have all the parks around it, there's no need for those. Here's my idea of what it would look like, maybe even rotate it a bit to get it out of heritage park:
It's doable to remove/move the Deegan entrance ramp. It is a non-starter to encroach even a teeny bit into Heritage Park.
if it that spot, its gonna be one of those funky looking stadiums where half of it has two levels and the other has like one or an open space like avaya
The state just spent about 2.5 years from 2016-18 (and unknown $$) rebuilding the Cromwell Avenue ramp. It would not be the first time work was done only to be almost immediately demolished, but I don't think you can just assume that ramp away either. It also provides the only access connecting the SB Deegan to Bronx streets between Fordham Road and 135th Street that does not require that cars make left turns on or off the Macombs Dam Bridge at an already overloaded intersection.
I thought the parking garage is in play, which opens up a good amount of space.
You could also reconstruct the final 200-300 feet of the off ramp adding a sharper turn that goes south over the train tracks and exits directly onto River, opening up the small parking lot on the SW corner River and 153rd for construction space.
