What Happens To Mix?
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No we don't. Our defense stinks. But our offense is the worst in the league.
This is MLS, most forwards aren't going to convert their chances you worry about. Until we build a solid youth development program that feeds us young, cheap, defenders, we need to be able to spend our money on scoring goals. We are the worst in the league at scoring goals, and middle of the league in allowing them.
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Nicholas Constantino
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It's a joint thing. It's not like there's a separate team for defense and a separate team for offense. No body in the midfield can win the ball and move forward in transition on our team. That's why I wanted DDR so bad. It's like Chelsea before they had Matic. The best defenders in the league, and very capable midfielders, but nobody that can break up the tackles and push forward toward goal. Right now we are letting forwards find space to run at our defenders. Yeah, they don't convert all their chances, but they convert enough of them. Now that we have Lampard and Pirlo (hopefully) we aren't going to have any issues going from defense to attack, that's what they're best at. The problem is going to be winning the ball back in areas that will allow Lampard and Pirlo to be dangerous. Look at DDR and Marchisio's contributions for Italy when they're paired with Pirlo. They're so good at winning the ball back, getting it to Pirlo and then he does his thing.
If we let forwards run at our defense and they don't score then Wingert and Brovsky are gonna boot the ball 75 yards up the pitch to Nemec and it will skip our midfield completely. If we have someone to break up the play before it gets to that part, then we will 1) concede less, 2) score more, or atleast get in better scoring positions with build up play, and 3) be an infinitely better team that would play on our strengths. Just my opinion.
MagnusPax
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The best teams in MLS use a d-Mid to great effect. Their job? To cover for the defense, to play destroyer against the offensive buildup and then try to distribute the ball to the offense. Beckerman, Alonso, Kitchen even Bradley and McCarty do this. Poku can get forwRd but forgets to play defense. AJ can destroy but can't distribute. I've read that Pirlo is a def mid but I don't buy it. Maybe a 4-2-3-1 is the trick. Play AJ or Mix with Pirlo in the dmid or CM position. Put Lamps in the attacking mids or on the right. I don't mind Villa on left (LAM) as long as Nemec is up top.
I'll worry about this more when Pirlo signs and Lamps arrives.
Z4CH3B99
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Damn bitch you salty! lolAss:
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Pirlo is a defensive mid, but not a defensive mid. He's not the makelele kind whos there to play as a 5th defender almost.
He's there the guy who keeps it right, cuts off a pass and makes the game what he wants to make it into. It's like having a deep attacking midfielder almost.
Pirlo, the way he plays, has about 5 years left in him. He's not gonna sprint to win balls, or take on multiple players. He's the man.
Jacobson sucks on all levels. How he's a professional soccer player is beyond me. If you have no idea how to pass a ball, or play soccer at that you don't belong on the field.
He's there the guy who keeps it right, cuts off a pass and makes the game what he wants to make it into. It's like having a deep attacking midfielder almost.
Pirlo, the way he plays, has about 5 years left in him. He's not gonna sprint to win balls, or take on multiple players. He's the man.
Jacobson sucks on all levels. How he's a professional soccer player is beyond me. If you have no idea how to pass a ball, or play soccer at that you don't belong on the field.
I agree that Mix is a developing distributor and an underrated tackler but although he is a future national talent Grabavoy is tied for the team lead in assists and Ballouchy is tied for goal. Mix sems to play better when Villa is in the game. He may be one of those guys who plays up to his teammates, which would be great when he plays next too Pirlo and Lampard
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MagnusPax
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So if Jacobsen is out and Poku isn't a def mid either, who plays in the middle with Pirlo? Mix is the only person we have left that has a chance of playing any defense.
However, can Pirlo work in a shared midfield? He seems like a left to right kinda guy.
He wants the middle, Milan wanted him at left midfield before he left. He didn't want to do it. He wants to run as less as possible.
If all our central midfielders get hurt, and Jacobson is our only option, we must use tony Taylor
I think Mix playing with Pirlo will bode very well for the USMNT in the future.
I think the Pirlo/AJ/Mix as DM argument is too narrow a discussion. None of them have the complete skill set if considered in isolation. If AJ is your DM you have no distribution. If Pirlo is there you have no destroyer. If Mix is there you take away his offensive prowess which is his greatest attribute.
But think about more players. Consider a 4-2-3-1 with AJ and Pirlo sharing DM role. Obviously AJ is the destroyer. Pirlo is the distributor. If our defenders play conservative this leaves us a player down going into the attack and far more easily defended. However, if our FBs get forward with AJ in reserve supporting the CBs and Pirlo with the ball, suddenly we are frightening (even with poor quality FBs).
In this formation we almost start to play more like a 3-4-3-1. We know we are going to concede goals, but a potent offense helps your defense. Opponents will be reluctant to over commit. We might lose a game or two 4-1. But we'll probably win a bunch by the same score line.
I think this formation works and makes the big question not who plays DM, but in the next 12 months, who can we get with speed for our FBs?
First season.
If the rumors actually come true and we are watching Mix, Villa, Lampard and Pirlo for the 2nd half of this year (not to mention any other signings under DP3), that will go a loooong way toward reestablishing my faith in our leadership and the talent we will have to compete with.
Mix and Pirlo become the best midfield partnership since Xavi and Iniesta
This one seriously made me crack up. Good job
