Kreis Officially Out At NYCFC

Don't do it buddy..... Gambling Dan Bucks is a gateway gamble - go down that road and pretty soon you could be signing away rent checks and playing $$ Mahjongg with groups of elderly ladies.
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Agree. He'd be vindicated if he succeeded at an expansion team, but his image would be nearly irreparably damaged to fail a second time in a row with an expansion team - his MLS Urban Legend would be smashed. Much safer to take a role at an established club as long as it's not a perennial failure.
Why would an owner hire someone who showed that he didn't play well with his last owner, and who is a "system" guy who could not implement his system in one year? Combined with the details of his prior MLS experience (barely making playoffs, enjoying a lot of luck in the playoffs) I am guessing NASL might be his next destination.
 
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Why would an owner hire someone who showed that he didn't play well with his last owner, and who is a "system" guy who could not implement his system in one year? Combined with the details of his prior MLS experience (barely making playoffs, enjoying a lot of luck in the playoffs) I am guessing NASL might be his next destination.
I don't think the rest of mls is siding with CFG in this one. They hired a guy with a system and expected him to do things differently. They gave him roster control when they probably shouldnt have. They signed DPs that didn't fit with the roster they created and stole one DP for the better half of a season. They expected playoffs when nearly all expansion teams don't make the playoffs.

If he messes up the next job he's in trouble, but he still has a great resume and can be successful somewhere else in the right situation.
 
He's already rumored in pretty much every open job and some that arent. I would be surprised if he doesn't have an mls head coaching job by the end of 2016 as long as no one on this forum secretly is also an mls team president.

He interviewed for the Chicago job. They went ahead and hired a Serbian national who had never managed a senior squad before. That's telling.
 
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He interviewed for the Chicago job. They went ahead and hired a Serbian national who had never managed a senior squad before. That's telling.
MLS vet who has experience training and building you players? What does that have to do with JK? They interviewed Pete too but no is saying he's a bad coach. They wouldn't have give jk an interview if they thought he was a bad coach.
 
MLS vet who has experience training and building you players? What does that have to do with JK? They interviewed Pete too but no is saying he's a bad coach. They wouldn't have give jk an interview if they thought he was a bad coach.
When searching, it's easy to get an interview. I've interviewed people that I thought looked great on paper and made my short-list, but when I met them and started to hear their ideas, I instantly knew it was a mistake to have brought them in.
 
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MLS vet who has experience training and building you players? What does that have to do with JK? They interviewed Pete too but no is saying he's a bad coach. They wouldn't have give jk an interview if they thought he was a bad coach.


1) He played 1/2 a season in MLS. He's essentially Andres Mendoza
2) Patrick Vieira has more experience training and building youth players
3) They interviewed Kreis first. And after interviewing him, they decided they needed to vet more candidates
 
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1) He played 1/2 a season in MLS. He's essentially Andres Mendoza
2) Patrick Vieira has more experience training and building youth players
3) They interviewed Kreis first. And after interviewing him, they decided they needed to vet more candidates
So what? People interview and don't get jobs all the time especially in coaching. I'm sure everyone on this forum has interviewed for more jobs than they actually have gotten.
 
When searching, it's easy to get an interview. I've interviewed people that I thought looked great on paper and made my short-list, but when I met them and started to hear their ideas, I instantly knew it was a mistake to have brought them in.
Sure but you have situations all the time where you have multiple good candidates and have to choose. Let's not pretend that we Internet message board users know if it is one way or another.
 
Sure but you have situations all the time where you have multiple good candidates and have to choose. Let's not pretend that we Internet message board users know if it is one way or another.
When did I say I knew it was one way or the other? There are situations that you describe (multiple good candidates) and situations I described (one or more are less than another). No judgement was being passed on my part, I was just conducting story-time with past experiences.
 
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So what? People interview and don't get jobs all the time especially in coaching. I'm sure everyone on this forum has interviewed for more jobs than they actually have gotten.

So what? Chicago interviewed Kreis (who is a God to some of you) and decided they were better off employing a guy with no senior managerial experience...doesn't speak English as his primary language...and has roughly 4 months more experience with MLS than our new manager.

People on here speak as if Kreis is the best manager in MLS. If he was so good, why aren't teams falling all over themselves to hire him. Philly is keeping Jim Curtin. Toronto is keeping Greg Varney. Montreal has an interim manager who they are keeping (it seems). Colorado has kept Mastroeni. Chicago went with a Serbian U-20 manager.
 
So what? Chicago interviewed Kreis (who is a God to some of you) and decided they were better off employing a guy with no senior managerial experience...doesn't speak English as his primary language...and has roughly 4 months more experience with MLS than our new manager.

People on here speak as if Kreis is the best manager in MLS. If he was so good, why aren't teams falling all over themselves to hire him. Philly is keeping Jim Curtin. Toronto is keeping Greg Varney. Montreal has an interim manager who they are keeping (it seems). Colorado has kept Mastroeni. Chicago went with a Serbian U-20 manager.
Who on here that is not a obvious troll believe jk is the best manager in mls?
 
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So what? Chicago interviewed Kreis (who is a God to some of you) and decided they were better off employing a guy with no senior managerial experience...doesn't speak English as his primary language...and has roughly 4 months more experience with MLS than our new manager.

People on here speak as if Kreis is the best manager in MLS. If he was so good, why aren't teams falling all over themselves to hire him. Philly is keeping Jim Curtin. Toronto is keeping Greg Varney. Montreal has an interim manager who they are keeping (it seems). Colorado has kept Mastroeni. Chicago went with a Serbian U-20 manager.

In all fairness, half the reason they hired that guy was probably because he was willing to sign on for a salary equivalent to what a youth team player makes...
 
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I doubt that would be necessary. Most likely CFG has to pay Kreis $1 million minus whatever he might manage and choose to earn as a coach. So Kreis earns $1 million no matter what. On a net basis it does mean that Kreis would basically work for free compared to sitting at home, but if he wants to keep active that's what he would do to keep his career on track..
even if it is the case that if he gets picked up by the new club, he won't get his $1MM pay anymore (no need to pay the difference). The incentive is still in his favor to find a club soon. Getting paid $1MM in exile is not an attractive option comparing with getting paid $750K but being an active head coach of any club. at his early stage of career, you can't sit on sideline for too long.
 
Who on here that is not a obvious troll believe jk is the best manager in mls?
The amount of vehement protestation on this forum suggested some posters (obvious trolls or not) held him in such high regard. Otherwise those protests would have not made sense. One only strongly objects to his firing if s/he considers him a top notch manager, a 90 percentile or above manager.
 
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