2019 Roster Discussion

[Midas Mulligan]

Can we just dump both? Please?????

 

[Christopher Jee]

Can we just dump both? Please?????

Not without knowing what the alternative is.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Not without knowing what the alternative is.

I’m really okay with not knowing.

I still think there might be a player inside Mata.

But I’ll sacrifice him to ditch sweat.

 

[Christopher Jee]

I’m really okay with not knowing.

I still think there might be a player inside Mata.

But I’ll sacrifice him to ditch sweat.

Why is ditching Mata linked to ditching Sweat again? Seems like the inverse is true, either way.

 

[Ulrich]

Guys that shouldn't be on the team next year under any circumstances:
Tmac
Wallace
Mata
Amagat
Medina
Ofori

Guys who are probably gone for Cap reasons:
Villa - not worth a DP spot
Sweat - probably traded for Gam/Tam to Cincy

Guys who want to leave because they aren't going to break into the lineup for any number of coaches reasons:
Lewis
SAS
Awuah

HG players that continue to defy logic of not getting minutes in any capacity:
Sands - played great in few appearances and then disappeared to the land of Lewis
Scally

HG players we're going to miss out on because of the above:
Haak and all of his teammates

 

[Christopher Jee]

Guys that shouldn't be on the team next year under any circumstances:
Tmac
Wallace
Mata
Amagat
Medina
Ofori

Guys who are probably gone for Cap reasons:
Villa - not worth a DP spot
Sweat - probably traded for Gam/Tam to Cincy

Guys who want to leave because they aren't going to break into the lineup for any number of coaches reasons:
Lewis
SAS
Awuah

HG players that continue to defy logic of not getting minutes in any capacity:
Sands - played great in few appearances and then disappeared to the land of Lewis
Scally

HG players we're going to miss out on because of the above:
Haak and all of his teammates

What if Villa USL becomes our affiliate in USL so Haak and co can actually get minutes. In Queens .

 

[Ulrich]

What if Villa USL becomes our affiliate in USL so Haak and co can actually get minutes. In Queens .

Haak has the ability to play 1st team ball.

 

[SoupInNYC]

Guys that shouldn't be on the team next year under any circumstances:
Tmac
Wallace
Mata
Amagat
Medina
Ofori

Guys who are probably gone for Cap reasons:
Villa - not worth a DP spot
Sweat - probably traded for Gam/Tam to Cincy

Guys who want to leave because they aren't going to break into the lineup for any number of coaches reasons:
Lewis
SAS
Awuah

HG players that continue to defy logic of not getting minutes in any capacity:
Sands - played great in few appearances and then disappeared to the land of Lewis
Scally

HG players we're going to miss out on because of the above:
Haak and all of his teammates

Only qualm here is it hasn’t “defied logic” as to how Scally hasn’t gotten minutes. He’s behind Tinny and that’s pretty straight forward.

 

[Christopher Jee]

Haak has the ability to play 1st team ball.

I think he has the potential. But we have only seen him in garbage time in a meaningless friendly. IIRC.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Why is ditching Mata linked to ditching Sweat again? Seems like the inverse is true, either way.

Because I’m not going to fight people that think Sweat is worth something. Too many people here think that saying Sweat is shit means you love Mata. I don’t. I think he’s better, obviously, because he is. But it’s not something I care to litigate again. Get rid of both and bring in someone to lock it down. Or don’t. I don’t really care. It won’t matter if we don’t have a new coach.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

I think he has the potential. But we have only seen him in garbage time in a meaningless friendly. IIRC.

Well that logic lands you roughly at where we are every single time.

He’s a more dominant player than Sands was at comparable ages and competitions. It would stand to reason if we signed Sands, we’d sign him.

But he’s wised up and won’t sign his offer because he sees how we treat young American players.

 

[Christopher Jee]

Because I’m not going to fight people that think Sweat is worth something. Too many people here think that saying Sweat is shit means you love Mata. I don’t. I think he’s better, obviously, because he is. But it’s not something I care to litigate again. Get rid of both and bring in someone to lock it down. Or don’t. I don’t really care. It won’t matter if we don’t have a new coach.

So we should make a medium sized roster potential mistake so you don't have to watch Ulrich defend Sweat?

Well when you put it that way lol. Anyway I think I saw Ulrich concede that he isn't worth a much bigger contract so maybe it's not necessary .

One-time cut each year. Kick him to the curb with that contract.

 

[Ulrich]

Only qualm here is it hasn’t “defied logic” as to how Scally hasn’t gotten minutes. He’s behind Tinny and that’s pretty straight forward.

We had matches during the injury crisis when we didn’t have any forwards - the kid can play wing and wasn’t given a shot.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

What if Villa USL becomes our affiliate in USL so Haak and co can actually get minutes. In Queens .

What if my aunt had a pair of balls?

What if Dome had a clue?

What if a team signed 30 something Spanish scrubs when they needed serious midfield help?

Only one of these scenarios isn’t a hypothetical. And it seems unreasonable to think the folks responsible for that give one shit about getting Haak minutes.

 

[Ulrich]

So we should make a medium sized roster potential mistake so you don't have to watch Ulrich defend Sweat?

Well when you put it that way lol. Anyway I think I saw Ulrich concede that he isn't worth a much bigger contract so maybe it's not necessary .

Actually, I was saying kick Mata to the curb. He’s never been worth his salary.

 

[Christopher Jee]

Actually, I was saying kick Mata to the curb. He’s never been worth his salary.

My bad, misunderstood lol.

 

[Shwafta]

I'm gonna sleep on this, have nightmares, and somehow wake up feeling confident about 2019.

 

[413Blue]

There seems to be a deep history of higher profile foreign players stepping up in their 2nd MLS season. We've even seen it with Maxi, who went from being "good but not DP good" to imo MLS best XI and our MVP.
Hopefully Medina abides by this trend.

 

[Midas Mulligan]

There seems to be a deep history of higher profile foreign players stepping up in their 2nd MLS season. We've even seen it with Maxi, who went from being "good but not DP good" to imo MLS best XI and our MVP.
Hopefully Medina abides by this trend.

Too bad he seems so fragile, mentally and on the ball.

 

[Keith Putnam]

The 2019 roster? A ground-up rebuild. Keep our most promising youth as depth, bring in *young* Almirón-level superstar attackers and dig up at least two Villa-level global stars who can actually produce (not Pirlo-style PR move seat-fillers).

Yeah, yeah, yeah.