2020 CCL
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30 degrees in february? bring out the shorts.
I am not a professional meteorologist, I just stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last year.
#CCLFever will grow on you so much so you'll develop #CCLFlu
Historic averages in the Bronx, NY
Feb 18-20 (CCL Rd 1): Hi 43, Lo 29
March 10-12 (CCL Rd 2): Hi 48, Lo 33
March 14 (Dallas): Hi 49, Lo 34
Also - temps for our first two MLS Games.
March 1 (Columbus): Hi 46, Lo 25
March 7 (Toronto): Hi 35, Lo 20
Feb 18-20 (CCL Rd 1): Hi 43, Lo 29
March 10-12 (CCL Rd 2): Hi 48, Lo 33
March 14 (Dallas): Hi 49, Lo 34
Also - temps for our first two MLS Games.
March 1 (Columbus): Hi 46, Lo 25
March 7 (Toronto): Hi 35, Lo 20
Was Anthony Merced's article on NYCFC Nation about NYCFC/CCL discussed elsewhere? Didn't see it in this thread (Why CCL Isn’t Important to NYCFC, 12/5). I hadn't come across it until I heard a spirited discussion between Anthony and JR, with Mike moderating, on Blue City Radio. Three major points:
1. CONCACAF isn't robust enough, and if what you're really looking for is MLS v. Liga MX matches, the newly created Leagues Cup might be better suited
2. Not enough money to the winner to make it worth it
3. To the extent that it leads to club world cup, that isn't worth the hassle either
1. CONCACAF isn't robust enough, and if what you're really looking for is MLS v. Liga MX matches, the newly created Leagues Cup might be better suited
2. Not enough money to the winner to make it worth it
3. To the extent that it leads to club world cup, that isn't worth the hassle either
Honestly, I can only see us taking CCL seriously if our CFG overlords decide that they want to stack the Club World Cup with Abu Dhabi-backed teams as a pure 'fuck you' to the hosts in Qatar. Otherwise I imagine it'll just be another thing for our new coach to moan about when we draw the first three games of the MLS season.
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ATLUTD to host Round of 16 CCL match at Kennesaw State
Glad to see we're not the only MLS team that has occasional hosting issues.
Yeah...I don't really understand point #1 at all. MLS has grown dramatically just over the last 5 years, and I think we've also seen a dramatic increase in interest in CCL. It's not where we want it to be, no. But it's increasing. Dismissing the potential growth in Costa Rica or other CONCACAF countries isn't really helpful. And ignoring the exposure of MLS clubs to those countries, and the exposure of players from those leagues to MLS Sporting Directors isn't productive.
And I'm sure those leagues will have the occasional team that is very talented and can make a run.
Regarding CCL vs League's Cup, we do know that clubs care about CCL in both the US and Mexico (I don't know for sure about the fans in Mexico). I'm not sure we know whether teams really care about Leagues Cup in the US and Mexico, just look at the XI's that suited up in last year's games
I'm getting tired of the steady denigration of every competition (except MLS Cup) that MLS teams participate in. The Supporters Shield is routinely dismissed, almost nobody likes the new Leagues Cup or Campeones Cup,* even the USOC, though somewhat more respected, comes in for its share of pot shots (and currently the Canada Cup is getting killed for putting Montreal in CCL). It's really tiresome.
* I don't get the sense that even the author of the article cited a few posts back likes Leagues Cup. He just uses it as a club to bash CCL.
I listened to the (always excellent) Blue City Radio pod where the author bashed CCL. Basically the thesis was “the tournament sucks, no one cares (now or ever in the future), no one is going to watch these teams” therefore NYCFC should just not give an eff about the tournament.
It got very repetitive as it seemed this was the same point over and over - I wished they would have asked him “ok, no one cares, how would you devise a continental tournament that people do care about?”
Isn’t the reason no one cares that MLS teams fail miserably in the tournament?
I think CCL is great. The reason I think most Americans may not care about it is because it's simply not televised well enough. Similar to why MLS would do better if it were televised the way other sports were.
Having success would help too. But exposure is the biggest thing, I think. UEFA champions league is everywhere. Even Europa league gets better exposure than CCL.
Having success would help too. But exposure is the biggest thing, I think. UEFA champions league is everywhere. Even Europa league gets better exposure than CCL.
None of the teams that win these competitions denigrate them.
Sour grapes much?
(Not meaning you have sour grapes mgar. But the rest of the world, oh yeah. I, for one, would be pretty damn happy to win any of the mentioned trophies.)
Fans of those teams will sometimes do so, but only if they also won MLS Cup, and it is completely situational. So if, for example, the issue is who is the team of the decade, a Sounders fan will note that they have 1 Shield and 3 Open Cups in addition to the 2 MLS Cups. But if they're arguing with a Red Bull fan they'll say that only the MLS Cup means anything.
Not to pick on Sounders fans.
But actually, yeah, they are obnoxious.
Fox is a good partner. Wonder if the championship can make it to big fox if an MLS team makes the final.
i doubt it, they already got their show lineup set for the spring, this is not a big enough draw on a Wednesday night.
