2025 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread

[mgarbowski]

Question about this. Not to undermine, just playing with data.

I think Keaton is the only midfielder, maybe only player outside of defenders to average 90 minutes per match through 3. Haak may also, but he played 45 as a CB against Miami and then 90 as CB vs Orlando.

Is your “per game” analysis per game or per 90?

I wonder about Shore’s, Haak’s (as a mid-fielder), Perea’s per 90 stats.

Again, this is more curiosity (and general preference for per 90 vs per game as a useful statistic) that it is any challenge to your general conclusion which sounds legit to me.

ASA uses per 96 because they account for added time. It mostly affects someone who enters very late and gets credit for say, 10 minutes instead of the completely fictional 1 or 2. 96 is a presumed average of regular plus added time across all games.

I'm not sure how to express this in shorthand without complications.

If I say per 90 I'm inaccurate, but people mostly know what I mean. But someone who knows ASA well wonders why I used 90.
If I say per 96 people are confused, or think I'm confused or ignorant or can't type.
So I say per game, and understandably get questions like yours.

 

[mgarbowski]

It would help if common usage were that "Game" means a full game time and "Appearance" means entering a game for however how long.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

If you looked at how we used the double pivot, both Shore and Keaton played the 6 & the 8 interchangeably. It was all about what side the ball was on. We played a lot more up the left side which resulted in Shore playing up, but when we were on the right side Keaton was up.

 

[KevinJRogers]

If you looked at how we used the double pivot, both Shore and Keaton played the 6 & the 8 interchangeably. It was all about what side the ball was on. We played a lot more up the left side which resulted in Shore playing up, but when we were on the right side Keaton was up.

It was something to see, wasn't it? Natural movement, natural flow. We're not at all static under Pascal.

 

[gbservis]

Are we going to sign anyone this window and if we are why is it taking so long?

 

[mgarbowski]

Are we going to sign anyone this window and if we are why is it taking so long?

Lee is putting all acquisitions on hold until the schedule flips because it will be easier then.

 

[BC19]

Are we going to sign anyone this window and if we are why is it taking so long?

Lee is just being patient. Us mere mortals and other General Managers wouldn’t get it

 

[moogoo]

Are we going to sign anyone this window and if we are why is it taking so long?

 

[BC19]

Before the LA match Pascal mentioned he expected to add to the squad “very soon”. That hasn’t happened yet. I hope Lee and him are on the same page and he isn’t getting as frustrated as we are by the lack of signings.

 

[gbservis]

Before the LA match Pascal mentioned he expected to add to the squad “very soon”. That hasn’t happened yet. I hope Lee and him are on the same page and he isn’t getting as frustrated as we are by the lack of signings.

LOL, Pascal thinking David Lee does things quickly.

 

[ZYanksRule]

Before the LA match Pascal mentioned he expected to add to the squad “very soon”. That hasn’t happened yet. I hope Lee and him are on the same page and he isn’t getting as frustrated as we are by the lack of signings.

Just because we haven't learned of anything doesn't mean they're doing nothing.

They may be doing nothing. They may be negotiating with players/teams and it stays quiet because the rumors don't usually start until we're fairly far down the process. Odds are they have a lot of oars in the water and they're trying to get there on a bunch of things.

 

[KevinJRogers]

Odds are they have a lot of oars in the water and they're trying to get there on a bunch of things.

My money is on this one. The organization plays it close to the vest, which is simply a matter of negotiating professionally. It's super frustrating for us as fans and supporters, and we all would love to know what's going on, but at the same time there's a certain confidence which comes from knowing the organization is serious about business and doing their due diligence on acquisitions.

That being said, they could certainly be more forthcoming without giving the game away by saying exactly that: "Don't worry, we have a lot of oars in the water and we're trying to get there on a bunch of things, but we don't want to jeopardize negotiations by talking out of turn. Loose lips sink ships."

Just throw us a bone, guys.

 

[ZYanksRule]

My money is on this one. The organization plays it close to the vest, which is simply a matter of negotiating professionally. It's super frustrating for us as fans and supporters, and we all would love to know what's going on, but at the same time there's a certain confidence which comes from knowing the organization is serious about business and doing their due diligence on acquisitions.

That being said, they could certainly be more forthcoming without giving the game away by saying exactly that: "Don't worry, we have a lot of oars in the water and we're trying to get there on a bunch of things, but we don't want to jeopardize negotiations by talking out of turn. Loose lips sink ships."

Just throw us a bone, guys.

They have said they want to make signings this window. There's nothing more to be said until something is official. I think it's so much more quiet than in other sports because the speculation in other sports is a closed group of players. Juan Soto is a free agent, everyone knows it, and everyone knows there are only 5 teams who can financially afford him.

In soccer, there are around 4,000 professional soccer teams all around the world. The universe of players is so big no one has any idea who NYCFC might be targeting and the idle speculation you see in American sports offseasons just can't possibly exist.

 

[mgarbowski]

I don't care what they are doing in secret, oars in the water, or potential rumors. We needed players weeks ago and they've delivered zero. If they announce deals this week we still will probably will have played 5-7 games with an absurdly incomplete roster. Based on the 20 man roster against Orlando, we have only 19 potentially available field players (17 in the lineup + Grey and Perea). Of those, 2 have never seen an MLS minute and 2 made their debut this year.

Did the oars exist in December or January or February? Are the oars in the room with us now?
Who cares. Stuff needs to have been done.

 

[ZYanksRule]

I don't care what they are doing in secret, oars in the water, or potential rumors. We needed players weeks ago and they've delivered zero. If they announce deals this week we still will probably will have played 5-7 games with an absurdly incomplete roster. Based on the 20 man roster against Orlando, we have only 19 potentially available field players (17 in the lineup + Grey and Perea). Of those, 2 have never seen an MLS minute and 2 made their debut this year.

Did the oars exist in December or January or February? Are the oars in the room with us now?
Who cares. Stuff needs to have been done.

I agree with that. Completely. This roster is not good enough and should have been improved on already. They were caught with their pants down on Santi, just as they were caught with their pants down on Pereira and frankly, they get caught with their pants down a lot. Enough excuses, this vaunted CFG scouting team should be able to work more quickly than this.

I'm just fighting back against the idea they are doing nothing. They are working on it. They are just doing it on a timetable that is enraging to those of us who want to see results now. They continually think the regular season doesn't matter in this league, when all statistics say if you wait too long and get a low seed, it's very hard to make it to MLS Cup. They are working off incorrect assumptions and beliefs about the talent level and competitive nature of MLS.

 

[gbservis]

I agree with that. Completely. This roster is not good enough and should have been improved on already. They were caught with their pants down on Santi, just as they were caught with their pants down on Pereira and frankly, they get caught with their pants down a lot. Enough excuses, this vaunted CFG scouting team should be able to work more quickly than this.

I'm just fighting back against the idea they are doing nothing. They are working on it. They are just doing it on a timetable that is enraging to those of us who want to see results now. They continually think the regular season doesn't matter in this league, when all statistics say if you wait too long and get a low seed, it's very hard to make it to MLS Cup. They are working off incorrect assumptions and beliefs about the talent level and competitive nature of MLS.

I don't think anyone is implying that they are doing nothing, just that as mgarbowski said it's already far later than is acceptable considering the rest of the league has no issues getting their business done on time. Whatever the process is they have proven time and again that there is something seriously dysfunctional about it that causes moves to happen far too slowly. They can have all their oars in the water all they want but someone needs to figure out what's wrong with the boat.