Transcript of Crooks' interview with Doh-May.
https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/new-york-city-fc/nycfc-coach-domenec-torrent/
https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/new-york-city-fc/nycfc-coach-domenec-torrent/
Domènec Torrent Appointed NYCFC Head Coach (June '18) / Mutually Agree to Part Ways (November '19)
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Uhhhh Ring?
It also doesn't appear he flipped the triangle against Toronto. Ofori and Ring played deepish together, though Ring had more freedom to push forward.
If they do flip the triangle, I'd like to see Ring behind Maxi and Medina. Medina would also be a LW in Torrent's system according to the article, so he'd be behind Tajouri-Shardi, so he should slide inside.
Competition is open for the other wing spot. Lewis might actually be the best option to simply stay wide right.
Seems like Berget is only a CF in the system and is unlikely to play at the same time as Villa in a 4-3-3. Only in the 2-4-4 or 3-5-2 looks.
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Warshaw started that part of the article with an interesting idea, then he just lost the plot halfway through. He even mentioned Ring just before the part you quote, then apparently forgot he exists 2 paragraphs later.
I agree on Berget as a CF, but also keep in mind that we have seen tremendous amounts of tactical flexibility from Pep. At Bayern, they didn't have a false 9 and had a true 9 in Lewandowski and they adjusted the system.
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Nah that part of the article was off base all the way around. Like I told Bobby, Herrera played only slightly deeper than Maxi in the 4-3-3. When he says "most teams" play two defensive midfielders, he seems to be thinking of a 4-2-3-1, which has never been our system.
First name basis with Warshaw?
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I like to think I'm on a first name basis with a lot of folks but it usually turns out they were insulting my intelligence.
People get paid for setups that good. I’m just gratified when someone finishes them.
I am. At least when I meet him on 9th Avenue.
(But yeah, that was funny. Not haha funny. The other kind. No. Not that kind of funny. The other one.)
That looks really close to my dream 4-1-4-1.
Can we start an Alex Ring appreciation thread? How is he playing in this league?
I really like what I saw of Shradi in the middle in the second half against ATL, and I don't think he's well suited to play as a traditional winger. Inverted winger, sure. He's got a great first step but isn't all that pacey after 10 yards, and for some reason he doesn't really lift his crosses. However his ability to shield the ball and play in tight spaces is maybe as good as any on the team apart from Villa and Maxi.
Medina on the other hand is still too careless with the ball to put in the middle for me. If he is going to lose it, I'd rather he do it on the wing where there is a higher upside and a lower downside compared to losing it in the center and leaving us with our belly up. On the wing, he can use his +10 yard pace and his tendency to try and auto pass his way past defenders, as well as his whip-like left foot to swing the ball in.
I would love to see more of Villa in the hole as well, if Domè thinks we can support Ring enough as the solo pivot with inverted full backs.
I love the inverted full back system as it requires much shorter transitions. It's the one inch punch compared to the haymaker that is the overlapping full back system, and leaves us much less susceptible to being countered in wide areas. With Herrera out for the season and the window coming up, I can also see us going out and getting more of a playmaker in the upcoming transfer window, which is just more exciting anyway. Hell, if we think Shradi / Medina / Villa can do a job in the center, maybe we even get another true right winger.
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Villa only played 20 mins. And they changed the way they played at the half. So average positions over the course if the match isn’t a telling stat.
I think average positions in the second half for the players (including Berget) May give us a better idea what’s in store for Chicago. Or not, since Dome could just jazz it up.
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Just to be clear, that was an old positional map from our game against the Galaxy, offered to show how our midfield triangle looked in Vieira's 4-3-3. Last weekend's 4-2-4 was very different:
This actually does a pretty good job of capturing the formation, except the wingers were much wider (their average positions look central here because Maxi moved inside after Villa came off and Shradi spent a lot of the second half on the left wing). I'm not sure this tells us anything about what to expect this weekend, but I'm excited to see where Torrent's going with this.
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What I am starting to appreciate more and more how Ring drives play forward. Yes, he is an amazing defensive 6, and saves NYCFC’s bacon against top attackers too...but so often he is passing through the lines and pushing play forward.
I'm just not convinced of Ofori defensively I'm afraid :/
