Formation Speculation

In the Nemec vs everyone debate, I'll add that Kreis will have to worry about altitude in Colorado. Is Nemec in good enough shape to handle 5000 feet elevation for 90 minutes? Is Mullins or Shelton? This is where having his RSL boys will help, Wingert, Grabavoy, Velasquez should be used to it.

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I mean I think he may be used to some altitude. This place is pretty high up in the mountains.
 
Although both skiing and pot smoking is legal in Colorado, playing soccer for 90 minutes at altitude when you aren't used to it is killer. I'm worried about Villa too.

I get where your concern is coming from. I think this will be a tough test for us. Hopefully Jason has that in mind when he decides on a starting XI.
 
I get where your concern is coming from. I think this will be a tough test for us. Hopefully Jason has that in mind when he decides on a starting XI.
Since Kreis just moved from the other high altitude area, I'm sure he is keenly aware of it.
 
We could play this on the moon. Have you seen Colorado? They're awful. Historically awful. They couldn't even score against the Union.
Doesn't matter? Seriously? Don't make one win make you too cocky.

And did you watch RSL/Philly play this weekend? They aren't that bad. Take them for granted and that new Venezuelan striker is gonna make you regret it.
 
Colorado just lost their best player to Norway. I like Pablo. Good guy apparently.

But that's the worst team in MLS. If you want to compete for an MLS Cup, these are the games you need to get 3 points from.

Like Man City going to Burnley. Easy 3 points...
 
Colorado just lost their best player to Norway. I like Pablo. Good guy apparently.

But that's the worst team in MLS. If you want to compete for an MLS Cup, these are the games you need to get 3 points from.

Like Man City going to Burnley. Easy 3 points...

Like your last point exactly. That is, there's no easy game. Colorado's midfield is quite talented -- deeper than ours -- and they have midfielders who can come off the bench to contribute. They will use the altitude to their advantage. Hopefully, NYCFC can take advantage of their young defense.
 
Colorado just lost their best player to Norway. I like Pablo. Good guy apparently.

But that's the worst team in MLS. If you want to compete for an MLS Cup, these are the games you need to get 3 points from.

Like Man City going to Burnley. Easy 3 points...
Deshorn Brown was not their best player and was on the chopping block for awhile, he wasn't a factor for this year for them anyways. But we can discuss that more in the game thread.

I think we still see a similar formation this week.
 
I think we should recap what we have seen so far in order to isolate where we think improvement can really be made.

I think Kreis choose a flat 4-4-2 because he recognizing the deficiency in our fullbacks going forward. By moving two midfielder out wide, they're in a better position to provide width in the attacking half when necessary.

However, I've noticed that our outside mids are given a ton of freedom to pinch in. Velasquez and Grabavoy have ended up playing a CAM role in multiple attacks, most notably on Villa's goal against the Revs. In other words, the same principles of the diamond midfield are being used, just from a wider formation to make up for the fullback deficiencies.

In contrast to the forward position of the outside mids, both Mix and Jacobson appear to play pretty recessed in holding roles. Mix has been given some freedom to run foward, but it appears Jacobson is playing the closest thing to the CDM role. He rarely seems to run forward, likely told to just be out there to cover for Mix and help maintain possession.

Not that this is news, but I think Kreis' selection of scheme tells me he also identifies CDM and fullback as our weak points. Jacobson is given help by holding Mix back a bit, and our fullbacks are so useless that we just moved our attacking midfielders wide.

Our only hope at improving either of those spots internally is Poku. I hope he starts rotating in with Jacobson fairly soon. At fullback, I'd like to see Facey at RB as a temporary solution, and bring in an international LB in place of Brovsky this summer. In the best case scenario, an in-form Poku, Lampard, Xavi, and international LB could move to a 4-4-2 diamond for the second half of the season:

Code:
------------Villa--------------Nemec------------
------------------------------------------------
--------------------Lampard---------------------
----------Xavi--------------------Mix-----------
----------------------Poku----------------------
------------------------------------------------
--Fullback----Mendoza-----Hernandez-----Facey---

*Also hoping Mendoza puts the pieces together in training and starts earning starts over Wingert.
 
I think we should recap what we have seen so far in order to isolate where we think improvement can really be made.

I think Kreis choose a flat 4-4-2 because he recognizing the deficiency in our fullbacks going forward. By moving two midfielder out wide, they're in a better position to provide width in the attacking half when necessary.

However, I've noticed that our outside mids are given a ton of freedom to pinch in. Velasquez and Grabavoy have ended up playing a CAM role in multiple attacks, most notably on Villa's goal against the Revs. In other words, the same principles of the diamond midfield are being used, just from a wider formation to make up for the fullback deficiencies.

In contrast to the forward position of the outside mids, both Mix and Jacobson appear to play pretty recessed in holding roles. Mix has been given some freedom to run foward, but it appears Jacobson is playing the closest thing to the CDM role. He rarely seems to run forward, likely told to just be out there to cover for Mix and help maintain possession.

Not that this is news, but I think Kreis' selection of scheme tells me he also identifies CDM and fullback as our weak points. Jacobson is given help by holding Mix back a bit, and our fullbacks are so useless that we just moved our attacking midfielders wide.

Our only hope at improving either of those spots internally is Poku. I hope he starts rotating in with Jacobson fairly soon. At fullback, I'd like to see Facey at RB as a temporary solution, and bring in an international LB in place of Brovsky this summer. In the best case scenario, an in-form Poku, Lampard, Xavi, and international LB could move to a 4-4-2 diamond for the second half of the season:

Code:
------------Villa--------------Nemec------------
------------------------------------------------
--------------------Lampard---------------------
----------Xavi--------------------Mix-----------
----------------------Poku----------------------
------------------------------------------------
--Fullback----Mendoza-----Hernandez-----Facey---

*Also hoping Mendoza puts the pieces together in training and starts earning starts over Wingert.
Excellent post. Although I wouldn't replace Williams, he's been decent.
 
While I appreciate the work put into that post, until Xavi actually signs, he really has no place in a reality-based formation thread.

Im still not convinced Lamps plays CAM when he gets here. More likely he fits into the same flat 4-4-2 because the fullback situation will be unchanged come July.

I'm pretty sure most of you under appreciate Josh Williams, who is one of the best right backs in this league. I'm not sure the Revs game was really that bad for him and I don't see Facey starting over him. I think Brovksy spot on the left is more suspect, with Wingert taking that spot first if he is no longer required to play CB.
 
I think we should recap what we have seen so far in order to isolate where we think improvement can really be made.

I think Kreis choose a flat 4-4-2 because he recognizing the deficiency in our fullbacks going forward. By moving two midfielder out wide, they're in a better position to provide width in the attacking half when necessary.

However, I've noticed that our outside mids are given a ton of freedom to pinch in. Velasquez and Grabavoy have ended up playing a CAM role in multiple attacks, most notably on Villa's goal against the Revs. In other words, the same principles of the diamond midfield are being used, just from a wider formation to make up for the fullback deficiencies.

In contrast to the forward position of the outside mids, both Mix and Jacobson appear to play pretty recessed in holding roles. Mix has been given some freedom to run foward, but it appears Jacobson is playing the closest thing to the CDM role. He rarely seems to run forward, likely told to just be out there to cover for Mix and help maintain possession.

Not that this is news, but I think Kreis' selection of scheme tells me he also identifies CDM and fullback as our weak points. Jacobson is given help by holding Mix back a bit, and our fullbacks are so useless that we just moved our attacking midfielders wide.

Our only hope at improving either of those spots internally is Poku. I hope he starts rotating in with Jacobson fairly soon. At fullback, I'd like to see Facey at RB as a temporary solution, and bring in an international LB in place of Brovsky this summer. In the best case scenario, an in-form Poku, Lampard, Xavi, and international LB could move to a 4-4-2 diamond for the second half of the season:

Code:
------------Villa--------------Nemec------------
------------------------------------------------
--------------------Lampard---------------------
----------Xavi--------------------Mix-----------
----------------------Poku----------------------
------------------------------------------------
--Fullback----Mendoza-----Hernandez-----Facey---

*Also hoping Mendoza puts the pieces together in training and starts earning starts over Wingert.

I think that AJ has been okay but I agree that Mix is playing deep to help him out. I don't feel AJ has done enough to "lose" his position.

I hope Facey stays past his loan period to compete for the starting RB position.

I would also consider an international for CB or even DM role if AJ or Poku struggle; Wingert could play left back.

I trust Jason Kreis a lot on all these matters / decisions. He has the advantage of overseeing all the practices (which we don't).
 
I think our 4 best defenders from what we've seen are Hernandez, Wingert, Facey and Williams. I hope Jason finds a way to play them all. I liked Shay at RB. Changed the game some.
 
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