Game Of Thrones (spoilers)

You've got balls doing that - you probably also downloaded malware to your computer/smart TV.
I streamed it as well and only because someone spoiled a part for me and after 2 days of raging about it I finally caved.
It was great quality and sound. Only missed previews for next week. I'll definitely watch it again on Sunday and won't discuss it till then.
 
Gotta say, I was underwhelmed by it and thought the final scene was ridiculous.
 
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I thought the Benjen scene was sooooooo cheesy and I get this is fantasy genre and what not, but it completely lacked any realism whatsoever.

1) Jon is drowning in that water
2) Jon, if he gets out, dies of hypothermia within minutes.
3) where did benjen even come from
 
Post episode thoughts:
The dialogue between the Hound and Tormund was some of the best in the series

The Hound at some point has to get over his fear of fire because it got thoros killed.

Wight Dragon or Ice Dragon or whatever it is gonna be, I'm pumped.

As noted in my previous post, the benjen scene bugged me, though I do understand they had to close his character arc.

Arya and Sansa are very annoying, but at the end it's clear now that they trust each other IMO. Either Arya or Littlefinger die next episode. I feel like they're both played out, but Arya still does have her list so I'm leaning towards Littlefinger.

Incest is surely coming. I thought it was surely coming this episode.

From an action perspective, next episode is gonna blow.

Oh and my favorite moment, Jorah really can't ride the dragon
 
Also disappointed, but can't be sure how much was due to unfair expectations and letdown compared to the high of the NYCFC finish.
Agree that the Hound/Tormund stuff was gold. In fact this was Tormund's best episode I think, and I thought he was going to die.

Does the lack of 3 dragons diminish the likelihood of seeing the 3 Headed Dragon theory coming to pass?

The most interesting bit was the signals that the succession after Dany is going to be addressed and of some importance. Multiple references to her inability to have children, and she and Tyrion discussed succession directly though she pushed it away. I'm wondering if they will set up some type of non-inherited monarchy. Outright democracy would be ridiculous in this universe at this stage, but I could see the king or queen choosing a successor with the small council with a provision that it cannot be the monarch's offspring, or something like that.
 
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Also disappointed, but can't be sure how much was due to unfair expectations and letdown compared to the high of the NYCFC finish.
Agree that the Hound/Tormund stuff was gold. In fact this was TOrmund's best episode I think, and I thought he was going to die.

Does the lack of 3 dragons diminish the likelihood of seeing the 3 Headed Dragon theory come to pass?

The most interesting bit was the signals that the succession after Dany is going to be addressed and of some importance. Multiple references to her inability to have children, and she and Tyrion discussed succession directly though she pushed it away. I'm wondering if they will set up some type of non-inherited monarchy. Outright democracy would be ridiculous in this universe at this stage, but I could see the king or queen choosing a successor with the small council with a provision that it cannot be the monarch's offspring, or something like that.

Good thought on the 3 headed dragon. I remember some old theories about a dragon living under winterfell. That's what keeps it so warm. Or it's just another prophecy wrongly interpreted...
 
Now I'm starting to think the dragons might not survive the show. A Targaryen restoration always bothered me, and part of the reason was it is such a non-interesting answer to the Varys riddle of the king, priest, rich man and sell-sword. The whole series is about this alchemical relationship between legitimacy and violence as the formula for power, and the answer, again, is dragons? I like the idea of the dragons being dead when the series ends yet a stable government existing.

Where did the army of the dead get the chains? Have they been dragging them around all this time? Where? They don't need or have wagons with the usual army supplies. That's the whole point of an army of the dead. Do they even have forges?
 
Now I'm starting to think the dragons might not survive the show. A Targaryen restoration always bothered me, and part of the reason was it is such a non-interesting answer to the Varys riddle of the king, priest, rich man and sell-sword. The whole series is about this alchemical relationship between legitimacy and violence as the formula for power, and the answer, again, is dragons? I like the idea of the dragons being dead when the series ends yet a stable government existing.

Where did the army of the dead get the chains? Have they been dragging them around all this time? Where? They don't need or have wagons with the usual army supplies. That's the whole point of an army of the dead. Do they even have forges?
I was bothered by the chains, but bothered even more that they have a battalion of divers that rigged the chains around the dragon. FFS, the entire army was terrified of breaking through the ice and sinking in the freezing water, so much so that they waited out an entire night (or more) for the lake to refreeze, and these are the same dead soldiers that took a hundred foot plunge off a cliff at HardHome so they are kinda fearless but the freezing water freaked the Fck out of them, but all of a sudden there they are with a plethora of volunteers braving the water with the knowhow to rig a dragon up.

It was way too contrived for me. And I stand by my previous post, that I was asked to erase, that the moment a wight dragon breathes flame, they should die. Dragon fire kills wights, then the flame is created in its belly or some other organ that would Fck it up as an undead.

Yeah, for me, that was a jump the shark episode.
 
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I was bothered by the chains, but bothered even more that they have a battalion of divers that rigged the chains around the dragon. FFS, the entire army was terrified of breaking through the ice and sinking in the freezing water, so much so that they waited out and entire night (or more) for the lake to refreeze, and these are the same dead soldiers that took a hundred foot plunge off a cliff at HardHome so they are kinda fearless but the freezing water freaked the Fck out of them, but all of a sudden there they are with a plethora of volunteers braving the water with the knowhow to rig a dragon up.

It was way to contrived for me. And I stand by my previous post, that I was asked to erase, that the moment a wight dragon breathes flame, they should die. Dragon fire kills wights, then the flame is created in its belly or some other organ that would Fck it up as an undead.

Yeah, for me, that was a jump the shark episode.
Yeah the water/wight inconsistencies bothered me too, but in the end I went with chains. Six of one, six of the other.
And I'm also with you that a zombie dragon can't or at least shouldn't breathe flame.
 
Yeah the water/wight inconsistencies bothered me too, but in the end I went with chains. Six of one, six of the other.
And I'm also with you that a zombie dragon can't or at least shouldn't breathe flame.
Who said the wight dragon is breathing fire? All we saw of it was its eye color changed to become a wight. If the damn thing is brought back from the dead and its eye color changes, who knows what happened to its other organs? Maybe the dragon is going to spew some type of ice-like chemical and freeze everyone's ass. Just saying.
 
I still think even with all the inconsistencies it was a top 5 episode. Would have liked to see more Wight Polar Bears though.
 
[deleted my question because of potential spoilers]
terribly sorry if anyone saw my post asking if White Dragons were possible (they're like White Walkers - not wights/undead) - my brother literally asked the question if it was possible the night before the episode leaked - I innocently posed the question on Reddit and it was immediately taken down because it contained spoilers from the leak - hence why I deleted my post - apologies if I spoiled anything
 
Who said the wight dragon is breathing fire? All we saw of it was its eye color changed to become a wight. If the damn thing is brought back from the dead and its eye color changes, who knows what happened to its other organs? Maybe the dragon is going to spew some type of ice-like chemical and freeze everyone's ass. Just saying.
I have no idea if it will breather fire. Just saying it will seem wrong if it does.
 
Benioff and Weiss don't even know what the fuck they are doing anymore. Great at adapting the books in the early seasons, every one of their changes has been ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense anymore, no one's actions stem from any reasoning or character. GRRM sold his soul with this HBO deal.
 
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Benioff and Weiss don't even know what the fuck they are doing anymore. Great at adapting the books in the early seasons, every one of their changes has been ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense anymore, no one's actions stem from any reasoning or character. GRRM sold his soul with this HBO deal.

i think theyre doing a pretty good job, im thoroughly entertained.
 
Benioff and Weiss don't even know what the fuck they are doing anymore. Great at adapting the books in the early seasons, every one of their changes has been ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense anymore, no one's actions stem from any reasoning or character. GRRM sold his soul with this HBO deal.
I kinda wonder if the dragon dying was a TV plot or GRRM plot??? It makes for great TV intrigue but I'm having a hard time thinking GRRM planned for a dragon flying really fast to be taken down by an ice spear thrown from across the lake. And the TV kept making it look like the Night King was gonna throw it at Dany and her dragon since it was only about 20m away.

Two other questions, was Jorah fighting with two dragon glass daggers?

Those cuts on Jon looked fresh. Did he sustain wounds when dragged under the water, or are those non-healed wounds from when the nightswatch stabbed him?