MLS - May 31 - Cincinnati (Home)
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This club is beyond flawed. Put together a squad where everyone is under 24 and you basically have 25 man-children who can't nut up and win a f'n match. This is a stretch we haven't seen since 2016 and there's basically nothing that can be done immediately besides firing Cushing.
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I said it in the match chat. If his head doesn’t explode he has no soul. We are a deeply flawed team, but this was a theft. I’d expect some sort of discipline against Villarreal for that shitshow.
Shambolic refereeing tonight, and this guy has called big games in this region and the World Cup. Inexcusable.
That being said, we are not a good team right now. Too many individual mistakes and too many pieces missing.
I don't think Cushing is the second coming of Pep Guardiola, but he needs to have a full roster before he is fully judged.
That being said, we are not a good team right now. Too many individual mistakes and too many pieces missing.
I don't think Cushing is the second coming of Pep Guardiola, but he needs to have a full roster before he is fully judged.
Credit to Acosta for a beautiful goal (although the collective team defending that allowed him to get the ball and space to shoot - yikes).
Credit to Morales (!!) and Cufre for executing a nice flick on and header off the throw in.
Credit to Barreal for a beauty of a free kick (on a foul/yellow that were also questionable).
Everything else in this game was hot garbage.
I think this is the worst refereed game I have ever seen and I’ve been through a lot of Chapman, Unkel and Elfath over the years.
This team continues to find ways to lose - it’s like whack a mole. They play well in one area and make a stupid mistake in another. Only the result is always the same.
Oh and credit to Inter Miami for being bad enough to lose and pull us out of last place in the East.
Credit to Morales (!!) and Cufre for executing a nice flick on and header off the throw in.
Credit to Barreal for a beauty of a free kick (on a foul/yellow that were also questionable).
Everything else in this game was hot garbage.
I think this is the worst refereed game I have ever seen and I’ve been through a lot of Chapman, Unkel and Elfath over the years.
This team continues to find ways to lose - it’s like whack a mole. They play well in one area and make a stupid mistake in another. Only the result is always the same.
Oh and credit to Inter Miami for being bad enough to lose and pull us out of last place in the East.
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Am I the only one who thinks we actually played pretty well tonight? We carried the vast majority of that game.
Pereira's goal should have absolutely stood -- That push the referee called was an absolute joke. If we're up 1-0, it's a completely different game.
Then, Cincy's first goal came right after a terrible foul call on someone (Gray, maybe?).
And the penalty -- forget it. That's a complete joke. On what planet is that a penalty? Not a chance. Completely ridiculous.
If the referee calls it straight, we win 2-1 and we're all talking about a great rebound win against the best team in the East. Instead, we get completely screwed over and lose 3-1. Sorry, but we played well tonight. The referee changed the result.
This feels like the kind of game that comes right before a slump-busting win. It felt like that last game of a losing streak when we play well but nothing goes our way. I would put money on NYCFC winning on Saturday after this one. This is the most optimistic I've felt about the team since April. We deserved to win that game. We should have won that game. The referee changed the result.
Pereira's goal should have absolutely stood -- That push the referee called was an absolute joke. If we're up 1-0, it's a completely different game.
Then, Cincy's first goal came right after a terrible foul call on someone (Gray, maybe?).
And the penalty -- forget it. That's a complete joke. On what planet is that a penalty? Not a chance. Completely ridiculous.
If the referee calls it straight, we win 2-1 and we're all talking about a great rebound win against the best team in the East. Instead, we get completely screwed over and lose 3-1. Sorry, but we played well tonight. The referee changed the result.
This feels like the kind of game that comes right before a slump-busting win. It felt like that last game of a losing streak when we play well but nothing goes our way. I would put money on NYCFC winning on Saturday after this one. This is the most optimistic I've felt about the team since April. We deserved to win that game. We should have won that game. The referee changed the result.
I thought we played pretty well tonight. Though it’s looked down on around here to blame the officiating, I think it was poor and heavily impacted the game.
We played ok offensively because we had Turnbull and cufre bombing down the wings. Something we usually don't have in a 4-3-3. That helped a lot. But defensively we were in shambles. Ref influenced the game for sure. But our defense needs to step it up.
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I usually agree with you on blaming the referee; only losers blame the officiating. That being said, he was particularly awful tonight and handed the game to Cincinnati. Those calls were egregiously bad.
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Cincinnati deserves credit for taking chances. As terrible as Villarreal was, I believe 2-2 was the fair result - Gaby’s goal should’ve counted, and the penalty should’ve never been called.
The Acosta goal was placed perfectly. The free kick was excellent - and it was a terrible play by Gray to lose the ball and concede the foul.
I know Gray takes heat - some unfair - but he had issues tonight. Besides the foul, he lost the ball a number of times, notably in the 52nd minute when he had a chance to control a rebound off a corner and flubbed it. Hopefully, Ilenic heals soon.
Just hope the team can get to 9th before Leagues Cup and the summer window. Seems less likely each match.
The Acosta goal was placed perfectly. The free kick was excellent - and it was a terrible play by Gray to lose the ball and concede the foul.
I know Gray takes heat - some unfair - but he had issues tonight. Besides the foul, he lost the ball a number of times, notably in the 52nd minute when he had a chance to control a rebound off a corner and flubbed it. Hopefully, Ilenic heals soon.
Just hope the team can get to 9th before Leagues Cup and the summer window. Seems less likely each match.
Cringe.
He needs to do his talking on the pitch and get the team fired up and believing, not see the leadership from him
That's ridiculous by those fans, but probably also a poor decision to engage by Sands. But that's all a result of taking 1 point from 18 plus losing a USOC match.
I think the calls were poor but not overtly and objectively wrong. The problem was the ref made three 50-50 calls on plays that directly affected goals and all the 50-50s went for Cincinnati. Segal did push, and Mosquera got ball before Alfaro kicked him in the groin. But pushes like Segal's are often ignored and refs don't always honor when a player gets ball where doing so inevitably means hard contact. Nick has a point comparing the Segal push to the one on Chanot not called by Villareal at the end of regulation in MLS cup against Portland. Mosquera kicked Alfaro in the torso with his follow through before Alfaro kicked him. That call can go the other way and sometimes does. Meanwhile, in this very game, James Sands got ball in open play near midfield just before he took down a CFC player and while it took a few minutes, that call directly led to Cincy's first goal. It just took a while because Sands argued and our bench argued and got a yellow and when play resumed Cincy held the ball for a full minute before scoring. You can honor getting ball or not, but don't flip back and forth in one game.
The PK is also a perfect example of why the PK rule is ridiculous in many cases. Apart from the call itself, it took a play with a probably <2% chance of scoring and made it >70%. Not that I have a solution.
Freese was not poor but maybe this will pause the "Freese would have saved that" calls after every conceded goal.
Open play defense continues to be very solid, with again just one goal conceded in open play and Cincy having about 0.5 xG apart from the PK.
The Sumo Dogs available near Secs. 204-05 are very good, but expensive for what you get, even by Yankee Stadium standards.
Villareal did well by not calling a headbutt on Cufre and slapping a yellow on Mosquera for selling it. Cufre did make head to head contact but it was not an actual head butt. Villareal lost control by (1) making the Segal and Sands calls, then (2) giving 3 straight yellows to Cincy, and (3) then 3 straight to NYC. It was just a seesaw and made both teams feel hard done without actually doing anything to even things out.
The Nick postgame video is a little odd because Nick said enough to get fined and reprimanded, but he was rather calm and composed. That's actually a good attribute by him, but it's not what we usually see when coaches go off.
