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Anyone who actually cared about whether NYCFC gets a raw deal from refs would know how many times such call go both for and against.
 
Also I think if it happened 5 yards further out it gets called. .

This is the problem. Ref was calling pretty soft fouls all game. This was a pretty hard collision and to me.. gp was quicker and got hit in the back. I haven't gone back to look at the reply yet though. Even so, based on how he was calling the game, he needed to keep it consistent. It was outside the box so it's not a pk. But I think we should have had our fk.

My biggest peeves were the multiple times we had advantage for promising counter and he blew the whistle. One time I can understand it was a mistake.. but he had a few. And it's not like he wasnt playing advantage at all.. he was just inconsistent all game and that's the most frustrating.
 
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Thought he had another chance at the end line to maybe send in a low hard cross across the face of goal but was too timid and allowed the defender to beat him to the ball and play it out for a corner (which isn’t terrible, but a corner would’ve been the worst case had he attempted the cross and it was blocked)

I noticed this too. He just stopped instead of continuing to attack down the flank and make the defender stop him. Maybe it's lack of confidence?
 
Finally got to watch the game on the replay, the final third ball was very lacking and I agree that Heber just didn’t have it. Maxi also seemed to be missing his pinpoint passing ability on the day. A lot of the balls into the box went to defenders that usually make it straight to Taty. The angle of the camera was weird on the tv and it seems like the lines on the field were very faint and hard to see. The foul line net on the first base line towards the outfield also played a roll on viewing because the top of it cut through the field of view and made it difficult to know when the ball would go out of touch. Other than that the game was fine but definitely a let down when you start to expect 3 or 4 goals a game from your team.
 
Not even HEBER is smiling! LOL... parks gets me every time.

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This is the problem. Ref was calling pretty soft fouls all game. This was a pretty hard collision and to me.. gp was quicker and got hit in the back. I haven't gone back to look at the reply yet though. Even so, based on how he was calling the game, he needed to keep it consistent. It was outside the box so it's not a ok. But I think we should have had our fk.
I agree it was a foul and we should have had a FK. I still don't think VAR would overrule it if it were in the box and reviewable.
My biggest peeves were the multiple times we had advantage for promising counter and he blew the whistle. One time I can understand it was a mistake.. but he had a few. And it's not like he wasnt playing advantage at all.. he was just inconsistent all game and that's the most frustrating.
I only noticed this once, fairly late, and right after a SKC free kick when we won the ball and started a counter only to be waved back. My guess at the time was the call was offsides and that offsides is not subject to playing advantage. But I don't actually know if either part of that is true. I didn't notice the call and I don't know if you can play advantage after offsides, because it doesn't come into play that often. Offsides calls usually end either with a goal (later waved back), a whistle, a save or a shot over the end line. Not much opportunity to play advantage.
 
I agree it was a foul and we should have had a FK. I still don't think VAR would overrule it if it were in the box and reviewable.

I only noticed this once, fairly late, and right after a SKC free kick when we won the ball and started a counter only to be waved back. My guess at the time was the call was offsides and that offsides is not subject to playing advantage. But I don't actually know if either part of that is true. I didn't notice the call and I don't know if you can play advantage after offsides, because it doesn't come into play that often. Offsides calls usually end either with a goal (later waved back), a whistle, a save or a shot over the end line. Not much opportunity to play advantage.

from IFAB:

Advantage
If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.

Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play, violent conduct or a second cautionable offence unless there is a clear opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send off the player when the ball is next out of play, but if the player plays the ball or challenges/interferes with an opponent, the referee will stop play, send off the player and restart with an indirect free kick, unless the player committed a more serious offence.

If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick.

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Seems that advantage can be played in almost all situations except red card/2nd yellow violations and even then, only if there is no clear opportunity to score. so offsides wouldn't have mattered and that makes sense. i don't recall the instance you're talking about, but it makes sense that the ref could ignore the linesman if the defending team wins the ball and is in the middle of a promising counter. it would be punishing the defending team by calling the offsides and allowing the previously attacking team to get back to set up their defense.
 
Our fullbacks are not garbage. Heber is shot. Couldn’t break them down.

Really really disappointed in Hebers lack of effort
 
I am just curious that ball that Martins played backed to Sean Johnson that appeared to have potentially turned into an own goal around the 30 minute mark, that was all Martins correct? I am assuming so but I just wanted to see if I missed something the better versed fans could point out.
 
I am just curious that ball that Martins played backed to Sean Johnson that appeared to have potentially turned into an own goal around the 30 minute mark, that was all Martins correct? I am assuming so but I just wanted to see if I missed something the better versed fans could point out.
That was Santi, not Thiago Martins
 
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